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post #10591 of 12793
IIRC the cordovan Brooks Brothers captoe boots are also on the 240 last.
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IIRC the cordovan Brooks Brothers captoe boots are also on the 240 last.

I can confirm this is true.
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post #10594 of 12793
Most likely 341. Does not look like 240 at all - too asymmetric.
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Ok maybe some of you Crockett and Jones-ers can help me.  I really like C&J's designs.  But so far I am having no luck with sizing.  My brannock 8.5 in length but 9 in heel to ball. I also have a moderately high instep.  Ultimately I am 9D in most shoes, including Allen Edmonds. I have tried on the C&J for RL Marlow plain toe bluchers, the C&J for Peal & Co/BB short wing bluchers, and the C&J for Peal & Co/BB brown suede derby boots. In all of these shoes the 8.5 feels a bit too snug and the 9 feels a bit too loose.  I actually kept the 9's in the Marlows but I sometimes feel like I shouldn't have.  I am now on the fence with the BB short wings and boots.  For these pairs I'm leaning towards the 8.5's.  But I wonder if I should just give up on getting C&J shoes.  Maybe, since I fall smack in between their 8.5 and 9, I should just accept that C& J shoes are not for my feet.  On the other hand, these are some of my favorite shoes.  

 

I would appreciate any feedback, advice, etc.  Thanks so much in advance!

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Ok maybe some of you Crockett and Jones-ers can help me.  I really like C&J's designs.  But so far I am having no luck with sizing.  My brannock 8.5 in length but 9 in heel to ball. I also have a moderately high instep.  Ultimately I am 9D in most shoes, including Allen Edmonds. I have tried on the C&J for RL Marlow plain toe bluchers, the C&J for Peal & Co/BB short wing bluchers, and the C&J for Peal & Co/BB brown suede derby boots. In all of these shoes the 8.5 feels a bit too snug and the 9 feels a bit too loose.  I actually kept the 9's in the Marlows but I sometimes feel like I shouldn't have.  I am now on the fence with the BB short wings and boots.  For these pairs I'm leaning towards the 8.5's.  But I wonder if I should just give up on getting C&J shoes.  Maybe, since I fall smack in between their 8.5 and 9, I should just accept that C& J shoes are not for my feet.  On the other hand, these are some of my favorite shoes.  

 

I would appreciate any feedback, advice, etc.  Thanks so much in advance!

 

 

I similarly have a higher heel-to-ball size comapred to foot-length based size, and for me the C&J for peal models on the 240 last (like the ones you listed) never seem to fit right.  I find that C&J for peal/bb have somewhat elongated toe boxes and extra room in the vamp (but with a relatively sharp taper to the toes), which makes the shoe a tad too long/voluminous when sizing up to the correct heel-to-ball size, but my toes feel cramped when sizing down.

The only way the C&J for peal/bb work for me is when I wear thick socks with my heel-to-ball size (like in the suede derby boots).  Since you like peal styles, you might want to try the other peal shoes that are not on the 240 (look for the number in the writing on the lining inside the shoe)

post #10597 of 12793
Ever try a tongue pad to get a 240 lasted shoe to work better? I have a low instep and the 240 was also a bit too voluminous for me, but I'm thinking about trying it again with a tongue pad to take up space. I generally don't want to modify shoes to overcome an improper fit, but I really want one of those Peal Brogues

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Ever try a tongue pad to get a 240 lasted shoe to work better? I have a low instep and the 240 was also a bit too voluminous for me, but I'm thinking about trying it again with a tongue pad to take up space. I generally don't want to modify shoes to overcome an improper fit, but I really want one of those Peal Brogues

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I've thought about a tounge pad to tighten up the 9's. However with my somewhat high instep, I think I'm filling up that area fine. Upon closer inspection the problem seems to be around the collar of the shoe. It seems like C&J has a wider collar than a lot of other brands. I have other shoes that fit me even bigger than the size 9 C&J and yet they don't have any slippage. I believe it's because my foot is firmly held in place with with collar of the shoe hugging around my ankle area. The c&j's just seem loose around there. In actuality, even the 8.5, which is quite snug by the toes, ball, and instep, still have a bit of slippage due to the loose collar. Just a new observation.
post #10599 of 12793

A competent cobbler with some experience in orthopedics can/will help you to ascertain a proper fit.  Take the shoes to them and ask for help.

 

I personally find excellent fit and comfort with CJ lasts and especially English lasts in general.

 

Thanks.

post #10600 of 12793

my first pair of Handgrade CJ :) 

 

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my first pair of Handgrade CJ smile.gif 



and a great choice, well played kelvw nod[1].gif
post #10602 of 12793
Brooks captoe size 10.5d fits like a glove.




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Brooks captoe size 10.5d fits like a glove.




 

nice!  are those socks from jcrew?

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thanks friend, they're nice.  they look kind of thick.  would you consider them thin, medium, or thick?

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