Originally Posted by ClambakeSkate
When I make broad statements about China and the Chinese, it's purely a cultural definition and not racial. It's like how everyone says "All Americans are fat and stupid" or "All the French are cheese eating wimps". It just so happens that most people that live in China are Chinese which happens to also be a race.
I deal with the Chinese everyday, and what happens to the people in that country is fucked up, sorry. Yes, a huge part of that comes from westerners wanting cheaper and cheaper goods, but at the same time, the govt in China doesn't seem to have a lot of problems with 8 year old kids working 14 hour days in horrible conditions. After being under these types of conditions for so long the collective Chinese thought has become so skewed and fucked up to the point where now they are so hell-bent on world economic domination that it's scary. They're fucking everyone over without regard for the long term effects, simply because they have the power to do so and they're tire of being everyone else's bitch.
I'm not saying that the US or other western countries don't suffer this type of greed, but in China, where the general population have even less of a say than those in a democracy (a debatable word for sure), and less care is put toward the well being of the people of the county, it just seems much much worse.
That is why I try not to buy Chinese products. It's the same reason I don't shop at Walmart. It's not a healthy economic structure.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. I understand your point and why you would not want to support manufacturers that operate unethically. However, I hope that you can reevaluate the way you look at China and Chinese culture.
There's no real difference between the Chinese as a "culture" and a "race" since race doesn't exist biologically, but rather is socially defined, as is culture. Both terms serve merely to conveniently group people together. Furthermore, much like how genetics are too varied and fluid across humanity to allow for the definition of biological race, culture exists among individuals, not collectively; it probably better thought of as a kind of social proficiency rather than a set way of thinking. Just like anywhere else, China has a diverse collection of individuals with diverse ideals, morals, and viewpoints. You can argue about the semantics of the word "racism", but prejudice aimed a culturally or nationally defined group is still prejudice. Saying that all Americans are stupid and all French are cowards is equally ignorant (when said seriously, not as a joke). These prejudices have a strong, biasing influence on the way we perceive members of these groups.
Saying that "the collective Chinese thought has become so skewed and fucked up to the point where now they are so hell-bent on world economic domination that it's scary" is similar to saying that after slavery the collective Black thought has become so skewed and fucked to the point now where all they can do is steal and live off the system - after all, that's just their culture, right? I get where you are coming from with the idea of a Chinese inferiority complex, but to demonize 1/6th of the world's population as though they are a collective hive-mind bent on domination is absurd. Most people just hope for a comfortable life. Many are activists trying to do good for society in the face of overwhelming greed and corruption.
Many businessmen and politicians are entirely deserving of your vitriol - the vast majority of Chinese, including many other businessmen and politicians, are not.
As far your reasons for not buying Chinese-made products - I don't disagree at all. It isn't a healthy environment, no, and there are plenty of valid reasons to be concerned about China's rise in power. Your last two paragraphs I completely agree with.