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Optimum Nutrition Opti Men
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Originally Posted by Bohe View Post
According to your link only a hand full are worth taking that's incredible.

Yeah appendix A of that report pretty much blows the lid off of most vitamins claims of helping you in any way. Wow.

What's interesting is that the vitamins that did really well like Ultra Preventive X from Douglas Labs (rank #2) and Essentials from USANA (rank #1) also did extremely well in this study...

http://www.healthsupplementsnutritio...i-vitamin.html

which also breaks down the cost per day. Using both references together should give you a good idea of what is legit and what is bullshit. Sadly, most vitamins are in the second category. Essentials (US), seems to be the best deal at $1.60 per day considering its rank.
post #48 of 55
After reading this thread I checked the back of my current vitamin (Trader Joes Mens Daily), and sure enough, a high dose of Folic Acid. Quite scary when you read the studies.

For now, throwing it away. My diet is balanced but I will still try and find a better replacement. Then again, I'm only now starting to carefully analyze what's in these things, Trader Joes may not even be considered subpar.
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Originally Posted by Bale Patton View Post
After reading this thread I checked the back of my current vitamin (Trader Joes Mens Daily), and sure enough, a high dose of Folic Acid. Quite scary when you read the studies. For now, throwing it away. My diet is balanced but I will still try and find a better replacement. Then again, I'm only now starting to carefully analyze what's in these things, Trader Joes may not even be considered subpar.
GAAAAAAAAH!!! It's ONE study. A SINGLE study. Not plural. The STUDIES (note, not singular) show that there are correlations between low folate intake and colonic cancer, and no significant correlation between folic acid intake and cancer incidence. By all means, read the studies, but go beyond the title and abstracts, and don't jump on MSM based hype.* Hell, it didn't even say that it was correlated or associated with high incidences of cancer, but instead accelerated cancer growth. I support fully analyzing anything that has to do with your health, but make sure that you're getting a well rounded view before you lay down judgement. *Not saying that the study is invalid. I'm just saying that it's silly to place so much emphasis on a single study while ignoring a multitude of others.
post #50 of 55
I just went to vitamin shoppe and bought Alive once daily's for men. I opened it up and they smell like vegetables, I put one in my mouth and dammit, they even taste like vegetables. I'm almost finished with the whole bottle.
post #51 of 55
Apparently alive multivitamins are much better for your body to process because it is from whole foods.
post #52 of 55
I've heard something about how those store-brand vitamins are laced with things that aren't listed on the package.
post #53 of 55
you think Flinstones are delicious? try the Target Gummy vitamins
post #54 of 55
So is it good to take or not.

I am worried about my aging body. How about just taking calcium tablets?
post #55 of 55
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Originally Posted by Don Carlos View Post


Despite what marketing and packaging will claim, pretty much all multivitamins will do the same job for you. All that matters is whether you feel like paying $5 or $50 per bottle.

Not all vitamins are the same. You need to go with reputable brands that should be certified GMP. Chelated minerals are absorbed best and it also depends on the compound of the vitamins which can vary in quality. Some might be laced with heavy metals if you get a bad brand and some might not have the amount of the vitamin listed or even too much of it, which I think is more of a problem with multi vits.
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Originally Posted by alex99 View Post

I don't take any multivitamin anymore, just fish oil. I stopped after reading about the link between multivitamins and prostate cancer (the main culprit seems to be folic acid). I asked my doctor if he took a vitamin and he literally said "I take vitamins every day, they're called vegetables. Don't take pills, they're all a scam."

If your doctor finds that you have an actual vitamin deficiency, then you may need a specific supplement. If you don't live where there is a lot of sun or get much exposure, then you may need Vitamin D. Otherwise I would avoid and concentrate on a healthy diet.

The link is probably with multivitamins because people aren't understanding what they are taking and just buy whatever multivitamin they see first and think it's the same. SOME vitamins can increase cancer risk if taken in excess, like zinc and prostate cancer.

Pills aren't a scam and a hefty quantity of all vitamins and minerals can't be obtained through vegetables every day. Deficiencies aren't the only issue, certain vitamins in medicinal doses can be used to treat ailments. Food is not what it once was and many times people obtain very little of needed nutrients from diet.


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Originally Posted by bringusingoodale View Post

So is it good to take or not.
I am worried about my aging body. How about just taking calcium tablets?

If that's all you think you need, but D3 is usually taken in combo if not in the sun a lot.

I've yet to find a multivitamin I'd take. Maybe a B complex vitamin but even then there's always too much B12. The multivitamins I've seen usually have at least one vitamin in a dose too high. I get individuals and break them if the dose is too much. Some vitamins have no upper limit, while others do. Some can be toxic at high levels, others are not. Having them individually gives you more control.

For example, B6 usually shouldn't go over 25mg in a day. I've read that (in Europe?) it's recommended to stay around 15mg a day or less. Zinc can cause adverse effects at doses going higher than 30-40mg. I keep mine at 10mg.
Edited by Nosu3 - 2/19/12 at 9:53am
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