Originally Posted by Bounder
Actually, I don't think e-bay allows sex fetish items like used panties. You should come up with an elaborate complaint about how he's selling unsanitary items for urinophiliacs, or whatever it is, and report him to e-bay in an attempt to get his listings pulled.
Frankly, if it were me, I'd just mind my own business. But if you did report him, this thread would become the most awesome threak of all time so, in the intererst of my personal entertainment, I think you should do it.
I'm the seller. I found this thread last night after I saw that my page views were spiking on just this item. Not only have I been a member of SF since 2005 (obviously with a different name), but the only reason I ever got into selling clothes in the first place was because of the knowledge I gained through this site. Heck, I'm even opening a retail store in a couple months as a result.
I actually appreciate both sides of the exchange on this thread, and I'll try to address as much as I can without having to refer back three pages worth.
First, I buy and sell used clothing. Those pants weren't mine, and I don't have any "leakage" issues. Up until about a couple years ago, I never sold any pants with any stains of that nature on them, no matter how slight. Then I found another seller who had sold two stained pairs at $40 each, while most fetched $50 or more (this is when used Zanella tended to sell for about $10 higher than it does now). At that point, I thought I'd test it out since that told me there was a market for them. And that's why I sell them now. I don't see myself as "unethical" for selling pants with such stains because they're disclosed.
As far as the description of "excellent" - that's one of the most frustrating things about selling used clothes on eBay. Urine stains aside - what is "excellent" anyway? It's a subjective term that has a million different meanings to a million different people (as I've already told one SFer who's e-mailed me since this thread was created).
And what is "excellent" in the realm of used clothing? Certainly it doesn't mean that it appears as it did when it was just pulled off the rack, right? Well, from my experience dealing with thousands of buyers and potential buyers over the years, some people do think so. And others believe that the normal fading on a Lacoste polo after, say, ten washes is excellent. So how does a seller everyone? I've seen negative feedback due to condition left for sellers who have "excellent," "very good," etc. defined in their listings - so what else is there? In the case of these pants, I described them as "excellent" because there are no discernible defects when worn, and because the description of "excellent" came with the disclaimer and pictures. I thought that would be enough, and apparently it was for at least one buyer (who is a repeat customer of mine who has bought both stained and non-stained pairs).
But as for the quoted post, that's just mean-spirited and really not appreciated. It's not marketed as any kind of fetish item, and per eBay guidelines, it has been dry-cleaned before being put up for sale. But if you really want to see others try to have my listings taken down for your own humor, well, that speaks for itself.