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post #31 of 67
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Originally Posted by Achilles_ View Post
Good point, where does he get them?

Fuuma?
post #32 of 67
I'm with OP; and at the very least this is an informative thread.
post #33 of 67
i cant believe i read this posted headline and thread

the seller has the right to sell whatever he wants...
his pictures clearly show the piss stains..what else shall the poor guy do?
post #34 of 67
Ttmd
post #35 of 67
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dbdragracer1:
Yes. I'm quite aware of the defect, which is, you know, why I disclosed it...I've sold about 40 pairs with similar stains at about the same price over the years. Thanks.

Lol, what? Where does one go to acquire 40 pairs of piss stained pants other than a Japanese vending machine?
post #36 of 67
seller turned out right, you turned out dead wrong, time for you to take it and shut the fuck up

he didn't misadvertise, I bet "piss-stained crotch" is not even allowed in ebay descriptions

obviously you have no good comeback, that's why you started this thread.

stop harassing sellers. do you go into Subway and ask "why do you think you can sell tasteless papier mache sandwiches to white people for $5"? I think that ever time I pass a Subway, but I don't go inside and ask them. I mind my fucking business
post #37 of 67
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Originally Posted by pebblegrain View Post
stop harassing sellers. do you go into Subway and ask "why do you think you can sell tasteless papier mache sandwiches to white people for $5"? I think that ever time I pass a Subway, but I don't go inside and ask them.

post #38 of 67
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pebblegrain View Post
seller turned out right, you turned out dead wrong, time for you to take it and shut the fuck up

he didn't misadvertise, I bet "piss-stained crotch" is not even allowed in ebay descriptions

obviously you have no good comeback, that's why you started this thread.

stop harassing sellers. do you go into Subway and ask "why do you think you can sell tasteless papier mache sandwiches to white people for $5"? I think that ever time I pass a Subway, but I don't go inside and ask them. I mind my fucking business

wow strong anger issues...
post #39 of 67
Actually, I don't think e-bay allows sex fetish items like used panties. You should come up with an elaborate complaint about how he's selling unsanitary items for urinophiliacs, or whatever it is, and report him to e-bay in an attempt to get his listings pulled. Frankly, if it were me, I'd just mind my own business. But if you did report him, this thread would become the most awesome threak of all time so, in the intererst of my personal entertainment, I think you should do it.
post #40 of 67
complain to the "bay". This sounds like a listing violation...
post #41 of 67
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post
Actually, I don't think e-bay allows sex fetish items like used panties. You should come up with an elaborate complaint about how he's selling unsanitary items for urinophiliacs, or whatever it is, and report him to e-bay in an attempt to get his listings pulled.

Are you serious?
post #42 of 67
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post
Actually, I don't think e-bay allows sex fetish items like used panties. You should come up with an elaborate complaint about how he's selling unsanitary items for urinophiliacs, or whatever it is, and report him to e-bay in an attempt to get his listings pulled.

Frankly, if it were me, I'd just mind my own business. But if you did report him, this thread would become the most awesome threak of all time so, in the intererst of my personal entertainment, I think you should do it.

I'm the seller. I found this thread last night after I saw that my page views were spiking on just this item. Not only have I been a member of SF since 2005 (obviously with a different name), but the only reason I ever got into selling clothes in the first place was because of the knowledge I gained through this site. Heck, I'm even opening a retail store in a couple months as a result.

I actually appreciate both sides of the exchange on this thread, and I'll try to address as much as I can without having to refer back three pages worth.

First, I buy and sell used clothing. Those pants weren't mine, and I don't have any "leakage" issues. Up until about a couple years ago, I never sold any pants with any stains of that nature on them, no matter how slight. Then I found another seller who had sold two stained pairs at $40 each, while most fetched $50 or more (this is when used Zanella tended to sell for about $10 higher than it does now). At that point, I thought I'd test it out since that told me there was a market for them. And that's why I sell them now. I don't see myself as "unethical" for selling pants with such stains because they're disclosed.

As far as the description of "excellent" - that's one of the most frustrating things about selling used clothes on eBay. Urine stains aside - what is "excellent" anyway? It's a subjective term that has a million different meanings to a million different people (as I've already told one SFer who's e-mailed me since this thread was created).

And what is "excellent" in the realm of used clothing? Certainly it doesn't mean that it appears as it did when it was just pulled off the rack, right? Well, from my experience dealing with thousands of buyers and potential buyers over the years, some people do think so. And others believe that the normal fading on a Lacoste polo after, say, ten washes is excellent. So how does a seller everyone? I've seen negative feedback due to condition left for sellers who have "excellent," "very good," etc. defined in their listings - so what else is there? In the case of these pants, I described them as "excellent" because there are no discernible defects when worn, and because the description of "excellent" came with the disclaimer and pictures. I thought that would be enough, and apparently it was for at least one buyer (who is a repeat customer of mine who has bought both stained and non-stained pairs).

But as for the quoted post, that's just mean-spirited and really not appreciated. It's not marketed as any kind of fetish item, and per eBay guidelines, it has been dry-cleaned before being put up for sale. But if you really want to see others try to have my listings taken down for your own humor, well, that speaks for itself.
post #43 of 67
so Achilles, what is your response?
post #44 of 67
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Originally Posted by dbdragracer1 View Post
I don't see myself as "unethical" for selling pants with such stains because they're disclosed.


+1

Trouser linings can be replaced relatively cheaply at a tailor. If you're still uneasy about wearing trousers that did have a stain on the lining which has been replaced, just don't buy them. There are a lot of people who will buy them and don't really care.

For example, I know a lot of people won't buy second hand at all. They won't even think of stepping into a thrift store because of all the germs. Then again, I know a lot of people who, myself included, love to thrift and don't really give a damn because there are probably just as many germs, if not more in a public restroom and you can always launder the garments afterwards. To each his own.

A surprise is one thing, but when you've described and photographed clearly the problem area, there should be no issue. The buyer is clearly informed.
post #45 of 67
Hard to tell who started the ballbreaking but I am leaning 68% toward you. You should have ignored the listing rather than respond with a provocative question. In fact, make that 79%. Time to shut this one down as you are just going to get abuse on this site. Many questions just lead to sarcastic replies intended to insult the poster rather than provide helpful answers and you have walked right into this crossfire, my man.
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