I just got these in the mail, and I can't tell whether I need to return and size down. They're kind of roomy in the waist pre-soak. I hate having to wear a belt to hold up my jeans, I'm not a fan of the diaper-ass effect, and I don't know whether I'm going to have those problems post-stretch.
Pictures are spoiler-ed because they're a) huge (sorry, trying to show detail) and b) of me photographing down the waistband of my jeans.Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The jeans are riding a high (well above where I'd wear them) in the fit pics because the denim is too stiff to drape naturally. Even at the point where I normally wear my jeans, though, these are kind of loose.Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)