sorry i didn't see the action on this thread. Â i got them b/c 1. they were cheap 2. i'll wear them hard w/o socks and won't worry about having spent $250ish for them 3. yes i get used to handling lattanzi and gravati, but since i rarely, if ever, get any in my size, i don't "study" them as much as you would expect. Â probably good b/c i'd keep most of the 12s i liked anyways. Â just bought 2 pair at Korshak, one mantellassi 3/4 ankle monk walking boot and one chocolate gravati suede lace up, at full retail which wasn't all that fun ($860) but i was in the mood shoes are a quirky thing. Â i get a lot in taht i really like but sometimes they just don't sell (like those honey brown lattanzis i have now, sold the other 3 at 875 but this one pair is still here and i think 900 is a good deal b/c of the scarcity of these shoes), and others i get in i don't care for and they will sell. Â i just thought these were basic enough and cheap enough that i can beat them up and it won't matter, or if they don't fit right or i don't like them, either resell them or donate to goodwill keep watching my auctions though. Â i'm working a deal that could bring in a good amount of a certain brand that EVERYONE loves and would want.