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post #1 of 18
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Hello all, A quick question, which company manufactures Zegna's Napoli Couture suits? Are they made in-house? Or are they outsourced to other companies? Thanks. Jon.
post #2 of 18
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Because they seem very similar to Attolini... Does anyone know? Jon.
post #3 of 18
To the best of my knowledge, they are made in-house.
post #4 of 18
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Ok, thanks. I was curious is all. Jon.
post #5 of 18
Recently, while hanging around the conference room where one of the Zegna guys was showing his stuff (they have multiple divisions for the different catagories of merchandise), our guy asked him where such-and-such was being made (much work is now being done in Hungary and Romania with the finish work being done in Italy - therefore the 'Made in Italy' tags) and salesman responds "in Zegnaland". In other words, don't ask where and by whom.
post #6 of 18
Hmm .. I donno if you can just stick 'made in italy' tag for assembling pieces .. Is there any specification to meet 'made in italy' standard? For example in watches, 'Swiss made' or 'Swiss Movement' has its manufacturing specification (which I cannot remember precisely) but something like all parts and movement construction must in done in Swiss ..etc..
post #7 of 18
I know the feds regulate what "Made in USA" means on consumer products such as clothing. I doubt they regulate "made in XXX" for other countries though, except perhaps to require that such labeling not be knowingly false or misleading.
post #8 of 18
i can specifically recall reading an article on 'made in italy' and the jist of it was that something does not have to be 100% made in italy to quality for a 'made in italy' tag i've forgotten the details of the article, it was at least 3 years ago, but it left me with the impression that a certain amount of "finishing" work could be done to quality as 'made in italy' i've never read anything since on it and as such, i don't know how accurate it was then or how accurate it is now
post #9 of 18
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Well the label on my one and only Napoli Couture suit says that it was made in Switzerland. So, my question to Zegna is: other than manufacture the fabrics in Italy, what else do they make there? Jon.
post #10 of 18
Maybe they're made in Switzerland so it's a shorter route for the truckloads of cash headed to the bank.   BTW, Nick, thanks for the reminder on "winkie". Been using him a lot lately.
post #11 of 18
My Napoli Couture sportcoat is Made in Italy. I think all the Couture stuff I've seen has been made there. Don't know if it's made in Naples, though of course that is the implication of the name.
post #12 of 18
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Maybe they're made in Switzerland so it's a shorter route for the truckloads of cash headed to the bank. BTW, Nick, thanks for the reminder on "winkie". Been using him a lot lately.
Yes, but in all fairness it is a good product (no fusing, hand finished, etc...) plus I got mine at 75% off retail, so the bank was not as full as one would expect. Jon.
post #13 of 18
I am pretty sure all Napoli Couture items are made in-house, with the sole exception of their shoes, which are made by Ferragamo (and which Zegna claims a better maker than Mantellassi).  The shoes are made into two lines within the Napoli range, the Goodyear/Blake (Rabid) ones and the Goodyear High Performace shoes, where a thin layer of extra 'padding' (which I assume to be cork fillings) is present at the ball of the foot under the insole lining.  In my opinion, the "Limited Edition" trick is merely a gimmick, bundling the shoe trees, suede bag, etc. so they can price it higher. The Napoli Couture has a new label --- which may not be out on the ready-made items this season yet.  It is only present in recent custom pieces.  My initial comparison shows that different stitch work is used on the shirts now than shirts of a year or two ago.  The buttons are the same, fabrics selection remain exclusive to the Napoli Couture, just different stitch work.  I will examine closer once I pick it up next week.  I also notice the new label on the custom jacket that says "Zegna Couture" and "XXX" all over the lining.  The tailoring is, as usual, perfect. I can post pictures if anyone want to see it.
post #14 of 18
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I am pretty sure all Napoli Couture items are made in-house, with the sole exception of their shoes, which are made by Ferragamo (and which Zegna claims a better maker than Mantellassi). The shoes are made into two lines within the Napoli range, the Goodyear/Blake (Rabid) ones and the Goodyear High Performace shoes, where a thin layer of extra 'padding' (which I assume to be cork fillings) is present at the ball of the foot under the insole lining. In my opinion, the "Limited Edition" trick is merely a gimmick, bundling the shoe trees, suede bag, etc. so they can price it higher. The Napoli Couture has a new label --- which may not be out on the ready-made items this season yet. It is only present in recent custom pieces. My initial comparison shows that different stitch work is used on the shirts now than shirts of a year or two ago. The buttons are the same, fabrics selection remain exclusive to the Napoli Couture, just different stitch work. I will examine closer once I pick it up next week. I also notice the new label on the custom jacket that says "Zegna Couture" and "XXX" all over the lining. The tailoring is, as usual, perfect. I can post pictures if anyone want to see it.
Huh... Interestingly enough, I bought a Napoli "XXX" (no couture) shirt from the Zegna store in Boston about 2 ½ years ago, and it is from the Napoli Couture range, since I saw the exact same shirt in the Bal Harbor Zegna store, with the "Napoli Couture" writing on the label. So, I think they, um... ok, so I am not sure what to think regarding the different labels, as long as they are all made the same way with the same quality, who cares what the label looks like, right? The Napoli shirts are made by Lorenzini, right? Jon.
post #15 of 18
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The Napoli shirts are made by Lorenzini, right?
Lorenzini wouldn't have the capacity to produce hand-made shirts. As far as my meager knowledge extend, the Napoli shirts are made in-house too.  The new custom ones even include extra collar and cuffs (and I cheekily asked for a different collar style for the extra). I usually don't care much about labels, except when there is a change in label, it usually means something else is changed too.
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