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How are they rating teachers? Test scores? Willingness to tow a line (select from a list)?
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@NYR
What do you think about the publicly disclosed teacher ratings? good or bad?
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How are they rating teachers? Test scores? Willingness to tow a line (select from a list)?

Honestly, its all politics. Most people don't even understand the formula that was used to rate teachers, I know I don't. Neither does my principal. As a Union guy I have a problem with the fact that the city said because these "ratings" were so difficult to understand, and had such a huge margin of error, they WOULD NOT publicly release them. I also see the other side, as a parent, I would want to know how my children's teachers fared. I just try not to think about it and do what I have to do.
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So did they not fully release the info? Read something in the journal about:
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The New York data cover only grades 4 through 8, in reading and math. Around 80% of teachers aren't covered by the data analysis.

Is your grade in that band?
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So did they not fully release the info? Read something in the journal about:
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The New York data cover only grades 4 through 8, in reading and math. Around 80% of teachers aren't covered by the data analysis.
Is your grade in that band?

I teach 8, but teach history.

Here's something I hate about this:
Because of the obsession to "rate" everyone Kindergarden and 1st Graders will now be expected to take a standardized test.
post #530 of 564
Were you surprised by some of the ratings of your peers?
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Were you surprised by some of the ratings of your peers?

I really don't put any stock in them AT ALL. I think there has to be some sort of basis in reality for you to be able to be surprised or not. These things are so confusing and far from reality that no one, even within the DOE, puts any stock in them. The only people who do put stock in it, read the NY Post, in a non-ironic way. So take that for what its worth.
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lol
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Here's my school. FWIW:
http://www.nytimes.com/schoolbook/school/948-psis-104-the-fort-hamilton-school/teachers

Kimberly Fraser and Donna K. are really letting the team down.
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Kimberly Fraser and Donna K. are really letting the team down.

Kim's a decent teacher, don't know so much about Donna, she's been gone for two years...see what I mean by the stats not necessarily telling the whole story. Cognato has been on maternity leave for 3 years now as well...:/
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Kim's a decent teacher, don't know so much about Donna, she's been gone for two years...see what I mean by the stats not necessarily telling the whole story. Cognato has been on maternity leave for 3 years now as well...:/

Maternity leave for 3 years? Is this correct, 3 years?
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Maternity leave for 3 years? Is this correct, 3 years?

You get 4 years from the birth of your youngest. She has two kids, youngest will be four this year so she'll be back next. You don't get paid for any of it, but you are guaranteed your position for four years from the birth of your last child. You don't get paid for ANY maternity, the time you take comes out of your sick bank if you want to continue collecting your check, and you get six weeks from the birth of the child, after that, you don't get paid, and if you don't have the days banked, you don't get paid. Fathers can take paternity for the four years that mothers get to stay and care for the child, but do not get the 6 week period of paid medical leave (thats for the ladies who pop out the babies).
post #538 of 564
Wow, does anyone else here have the privilege of having their job performance published in the newspaper? NYR, you seem to have a cool head about all of this bs. I say avoid the politics, just teach the kids.
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Bill Gates on Public Release of Teacher Ratings
In this strongly-worded New York Times Op Ed piece, Microsoft founder Bill Gates calls the release of teachers’ test-score ratings by New York City “a big mistake.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/opinion/for-teachers-shame-is-no-solution.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=%E2%80%9CShame%20Is%20Not%20the%20Solution%E2%80%9D%20by%20Bill%20Gates%20&st=cse
post #540 of 564
It seems to me that the ratings would be private info for the personnel file, but not for public distribution. It is after all a performance evaluation, which is usually kept private.
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