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post #5356 of 7023
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This is now officially above my pay grade.  (Literally, way above my pay grade..!)


Not if you continue to buy numerous Viberg boots. LOL

 

All I was trying to pint out is that cost doesn't determine the style. It's determined more by design and sometimes the materials being used.

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Not if you continue to buy numerous Viberg boots. LOL

 

All I was trying to pint out is that cost doesn't determine the style. It's determined more by design and sometimes the materials being used.

 

Totally agree.  On both points!

 

Would only add that the relationship between style and design & materials varies from person to person and from social context to social context.

post #5358 of 7023
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Totally agree.  On both points!

 

Would only add that the relationship between style and design & materials varies from person to person and from social context to social context.


I get that. The only thing I would point out is the following statement I added to my last post:

 

Although you'll never get a complete consensus I still think that if you stick with the classic definitions of what is and what is not you can't go wrong, because when you do then most people will agree.

post #5359 of 7023
Will the natural CXL on the MTO Derby darken ove time with shoe conditioner, wax, or dubbin? Any experience with this?
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^^ Natural CXL will always darken. Unless you don't wear them....And even maybe then.
post #5361 of 7023
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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post
 


I get that. The only thing I would point out is the following statement I added to my last post:

 

Although you'll never get a complete consensus I still think that if you stick with the classic definitions of what is and what is not you can't go wrong, because when you do then most people will agree.


Without wanting to extend this conversation forever, I would say that here again social context is relevant when you say "most people will agree."  I can tell you that practically everyone I know ("most people" in my context) would look at those shell 2030s of any shade and say "dressy."  In other words, different "consensuses" depending on where you are and who you know...

post #5362 of 7023
Here's an interesting piece to add fuel to the fire. I own these boots but would never consider wearing them with a suit

http://www.gq.com/style/blogs/the-gq-eye/2013/11/3sixteen-x-viberg-andrew-special-boots.html
post #5363 of 7023
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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post


Without wanting to extend this conversation forever, I would say that here again social context is relevant when you say "most people will agree."  I can tell you that practically everyone I know ("most people" in my context) would look at those shell 2030s of any shade and say "dressy."  In other words, different "consensuses" depending on where you are and who you know...
I think to most people shiny = dressy. Stick a #8 shell and a #8 CXL 2030 boot in front of someone and the shell version will be dressy. Completely regardless of the boot being identical otherwise.
post #5364 of 7023
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Here's an interesting piece to add fuel to the fire. I own these boots but would never consider wearing them with a suit

http://www.gq.com/style/blogs/the-gq-eye/2013/11/3sixteen-x-viberg-andrew-special-boots.html

People at GQ know very well (or should know very well) that boot is not "formal enough to go with your best office-ready rig," unless the office is for a fashion magazine.

These are black captoe boots that go well with suits and denim:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/17175#post_4894172

http://leffot.com/alden-x-leffot-black-naval-boot-re-stock/
post #5365 of 7023
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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post
 


Without wanting to extend this conversation forever, I would say that here again social context is relevant when you say "most people will agree."  I can tell you that practically everyone I know ("most people" in my context) would look at those shell 2030s of any shade and say "dressy."  In other words, different "consensuses" depending on where you are and who you know...

But my point is that if I wore a gold Patek Calatrava on a alligator strap that most people regardless of social context would agree that "This is a dress watch". As well if I wore a EG Shannon that most people regardless of social context would agree "This is a pair of dress boots".

 

 

However you'll get more people in various social contexts to disagree with you when you call a Viberg boot or a Submariner a dress item. Yes some people will agree with you, but you'll get more people to disagree than you would with the other two items.

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"Without wanting to extend this conversation forever..."

 

I think we're well on our way. 

post #5367 of 7023
As an aside, I don't think the 2030 isn't a work boot, because of the slim toe and the lack of structure. You need to have some toe protection for any work boot, because you will drop things on your foot, or need to pivot large objects on the toe of your boot. The 2030 can't do that. The 310 with the full structure toe, though, that's a work boot. Just a gorgeous, high end one.
post #5368 of 7023
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

People at GQ know very well (or should know very well) that boot is not "formal enough to go with your best office-ready rig," unless the office is for a fashion magazine.

These are black captoe boots that go well with suits and denim:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/17175#post_4894172

http://leffot.com/alden-x-leffot-black-naval-boot-re-stock/
IMO, GQ took an abrupt turn for the far worse several years ago, and exists only to hype up the look du jour. It often touts a look or a "rule" only to completely contradict itself shortly thereafter. Given that GQ now says it's cool to wear sneakers with suits -- but only the right sneakers, of course (as determined in their pages) -- I am not surprised to see them recommend those service boots with a suit. They will then, a few months from now, tell you that you need a sleek balmoral for your suit and to avoid clunky boots. And the cycle repeats.
post #5369 of 7023
I personally think you all need to hold on buying anymore Vibergs till next Tuesday. This way you can truly debate this.
post #5370 of 7023
^^ LOL. Good point, MH.
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