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post #18211 of 19317
Echo boot would've been cool with the old painted Guidi. IMO 3sixteen mini ripple is one of the best boots Viberg has going. Some variant of that would probably be easy to get orders for.
post #18212 of 19317
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

Echo boot would've been cool with the old painted Guidi. IMO 3sixteen mini ripple is one of the best boots Viberg has going. Some variant of that would probably be easy to get orders for.

Brett and I have been talking about sampling.  The idea is a streetwear boot that shows the character of the vat dying process.  

 

The leather would be in a crust leather, probably horse, which evidently takes the dye best,  

 

We are thinking of using the 1035 last, not least because it fits my feet best, and if this thing never makes it to production, at least I get a pair (no, really, I like the rounded toe of the 1035 last for this type of boot).  

 

I am thinking that scout boot model, which looks really cool for streetwear boots, I think.  It will be on a flat welt.  For thinner leathers, this works better than stitchdown, which puts more stress on the leather.  I'll leave you guys to figure out the physics.  

 

The real cool thing is that we are going to do it on a stacked leather midsole, so that the striations from the dyeing process would look really cool, and then on the mini ripple sole.  

post #18213 of 19317

^I recently posted a pic of this 3sixteen Viberg:


Mini ripple? Check.

Stacked leather midsole? Check.

This one was on the 2040. 1035 fits me best as well.....

 

Convert to 1035 Scout and go with different leather and color? Above is Natty CXL roughout which looks pretty good but I'm open...The above are stitchdown though. Pretty boss.


Edited by metranger8694 - 10/14/16 at 5:11am
post #18214 of 19317
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

It will be on a flat welt.  

Is this entirely non negotiable for the scout? If so, sadly I'm out.
post #18215 of 19317
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Brett and I have been talking about sampling.  The idea is a streetwear boot that shows the character of the vat dying process.  

The leather would be in a crust leather, probably horse, which evidently takes the dye best,  

We are thinking of using the 1035 last, not least because it fits my feet best, and if this thing never makes it to production, at least I get a pair (no, really, I like the rounded toe of the 1035 last for this type of boot).  

I am thinking that scout boot model, which looks really cool for streetwear boots, I think.  It will be on a flat welt.  For thinner leathers, this works better than stitchdown, which puts more stress on the leather.  I'll leave you guys to figure out the physics.  

The real cool thing is that we are going to do it on a stacked leather midsole, so that the striations from the dyeing process would look really cool, and then on the mini ripple sole.  

I'm mostly a lurker in this thread but own plenty of vibergs so I could possibly hop in one of these gmtos. What exactly is sampling? I have zero idea what that would look like.
post #18216 of 19317
Zounds cool.
post #18217 of 19317

The Echo boot is sounding really cool, and I'm glad it's going to be on the 1035 last. I've got a feeling that the original spec was on the 2030.

 

Crust, if I remember my shoemaking terms correctly, is an undyed and relatively unprocessed leather. I'm looking forward to seeing how the sample turns out.

 

The stacked leather wedge / insole was exclusive to 3Sixteen at one point. Am I right in assuming that's no longer the case?

 

I'm playing with ideas for a Trench Boot on a wedge sole at the moment, and was thinking of the stacked leather midsole from the 3Sixteen Service Boot, but with a flat, lugged Vibram sole, like the one on the right in the photo, below.

 

post #18218 of 19317
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Originally Posted by JayDotz View Post

I'm mostly a lurker in this thread but own plenty of vibergs so I could possibly hop in one of these gmtos. What exactly is sampling? I have zero idea what that would look like.

one sample of the boot made for Fok
post #18219 of 19317
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

Brett and I have been talking about sampling.  The idea is a streetwear boot that shows the character of the vat dying process.  

 

The leather would be in a crust leather, probably horse, which evidently takes the dye best,  

 

We are thinking of using the 1035 last, not least because it fits my feet best, and if this thing never makes it to production, at least I get a pair (no, really, I like the rounded toe of the 1035 last for this type of boot).  

 

I am thinking that scout boot model, which looks really cool for streetwear boots, I think.  It will be on a flat welt.  For thinner leathers, this works better than stitchdown, which puts more stress on the leather.  I'll leave you guys to figure out the physics.  

 

The real cool thing is that we are going to do it on a stacked leather midsole, so that the striations from the dyeing process would look really cool, and then on the mini ripple sole.  

 

This all sounds really great. I remember Brett posting up some pictures over the summer of them dying some boots. Too bad he's deleted and Frank only has the B&W photo from below:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJcBdhDhXhZ/

 

Wonder if that was the inspiration for vat dying and if they still have some shots of how it turned out...

post #18220 of 19317
I may be in the minority, but the1035 is probably my least favorite last at this point and I think I have boots on all lasts except the 2005 and 310. To me, the 1035 is fairly shapeless compared to the other Viberg lasts. It is is neither here nor there. Even the 2030 is more appealing in that the almond shaped toe lends itself to a dress boot if that is what you are looking for. I much prefer the 2045 and the 110, even the 2040.

I also think Viberg excels with the rougher, heavier leathers, which can take advantage of the stitchdown construction. Boots made with the thinner leathers on a flat welt do not look particularly differentiated from those from other makers. Just my 2 cents.
post #18221 of 19317
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Originally Posted by metranger8694 View Post
 


That bottom pic is a nice black boot. 1035's?

 

They look great with the black midsole with dark cherry? and leather sole. Like it...Very nice.

 

Viberg had nothing like that which is why I bought the black HH derbies. All black with brown peeking through the sides of the leather on leather sole.... On the 1035 meatloaf last. :slayer: 

 

 

+1 for the meatloaf last.

post #18222 of 19317
I know the toe shape on the 1035 is different from the 2030. Could someone go into detail in other ways in which it is different? Is it wider around the ball of the foot or around the heel and ankle? Is the instep higher than the 2030? Is it longer or shorter, heel-to-ball, heel-to-toe?
post #18223 of 19317
Longer, and toe box doesn't grab your toes like 2030. For lack of a better explanation, less toe/front foot support. I'm an E width.
post #18224 of 19317
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Originally Posted by limonade View Post
 

 

 

+1 for the meatloaf last.


I wrote that just for you. Perhaps the 1035 is better suited for a boot than a derby. I don't know. The derby still rocks for me......

 

My Smoke Reverse Kudus on the 1035 are one of my favorite Vibergs.


I wish I could figure out how to post pics side by side.

post #18225 of 19317
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Originally Posted by Aviv View Post


Is this entirely non negotiable for the scout? If so, sadly I'm out.

It's non-negotiable for this type of leather.  

 

Frankly, it's the right call.  I have a pair of stitchdown ()the usual, not double stitchdown that Viberg does) Sophnet boots that look awesome, but the suede is just not really right for the stitchdown.  You need a certain thickness and toughness in the leather as well as malleability, for stitchdown to be a really good construction method.  That's why you still see it on many workboots and also, really casual, bang around boots like Clarks.  However, in many cases, the welt serves to protect the thinner leather from failure.  Of course, it's not like every pair will fail, but I do think that it's prudent to use the construction method that would work best to create a durable boot from whatever you have.  If we were doing a boot using that oil tanned leather than is used in Viberg's workboot line, for sure, I'd advocate for stitchdown, and we've done a bunch of those boots in stitchdown, but not in this case.

 

I'm not going to change your mind on this, I'm sure, but it's worth thinking about.  

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