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post #15406 of 19319
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Originally Posted by snapehead View Post

Sorry can someone possibly explain what people mean when they refer to the new mocha 2030 having a "flat welt"?

 

Viberg is known for their stitchdown construction of the Vamp to the midsole they have now introduced Good Year Welting which uses a "welt" in either flat or split(often called storm welt) here are pictures below

 

in this pic the bull hide is stitched to the midsole and runs just under halfway back from the front of the boot...2 rows of stitching also

 

On this boot the leather is "welted" with a flat welt  - no leather from the upper being exposed

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@snapehead here is a close up of the stitchdown on black CXL boot

post #15408 of 19319
I prefer SD over GYW purely on aesthetics. I believe it's the combination of double row stitching with a slightly lower profile that does it for me. The flat welt looks a bit plain to me. Maybe add some wheeling on the welt if they want it more dressy.
post #15409 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post


Glad to hear it and I was not being critical at all of the craftsmanship...their flat welt is as good as I have seen.

You don't find any difference in the look of your uppers or fit?


I do notice the differences between GYW and stitchdown.  Stitchdown does seem sleeker in the toe/vamp region.  I honestly prefer stitchdown, but I'll still be open to GYW if the leather and makeup is something special to me. 

 

As far as fit, the pattern and leathers used seem to make a bigger difference to me.  My Mahogany boots feel the tightest, due to the lack of stretch in shell.  My other GYW is a scout pattern, which feels a little looser than the service boot pattern.  None of my boots feel like my sizing would be any different other than the 110 last which I take 1/2 size down from the 2030.

post #15410 of 19319
Are the majority of new Vibergs going to be GYW? I thought it was an occasional thing that Brett was trying out.
post #15411 of 19319
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Originally Posted by lifeinabox View Post

Are the majority of new Vibergs going to be GYW? I thought it was an occasional thing that Brett was trying out.

I'm noticing a pattern wink.gif

I think when the last 4 or 5 non shell 2030s on gyw are virtually unsold they may start noticing a pattern as well.
post #15412 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Akeem View Post

I prefer SD over GYW purely on aesthetics. I believe it's the combination of double row stitching with a slightly lower profile that does it for me. The flat welt looks a bit plain to me. Maybe add some wheeling on the welt if they want it more dressy.

 

I also like how the leather of the toe/vamp area on stitchdown goes straight down into the midsole/welt, where the GYW versions almost curl under and look tucked in.

post #15413 of 19319
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Are the majority of new Vibergs going to be GYW? I thought it was an occasional thing that Brett was trying out.

I doubt he invested in new tech/machinery to not use it to it's full potential.
post #15414 of 19319
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Originally Posted by lifeinabox View Post

Are the majority of new Vibergs going to be GYW? I thought it was an occasional thing that Brett was trying out.

I'm noticing a pattern wink.gif

I think when the last 4 or 5 non shell 2030s on gyw are virtually unsold they may start noticing a pattern as well.

I know less than zero about their margins, products etc.or thought process...and I clearly can not do monetary conversions between Canada and the USA :)   ..seems that GYW gives them a way to deliver 3 to 5 styles in a complete run to a vendor at one time...making that a really nice billable for Viberg. Multiply that by several vendors...especially new vendors that most likely do not want to start promoting a company like Viberg  based on receiving a single boot run however for 3-5 it is worth it.

 

Hopefully as they build up the the revenue stream from new and current vendors with GYW that will allow them to focus on using.com to showcase some really cool leathers, different lasts, new designs and more stitchdown. There will be a whole new segment of buyers who only know Viberg as a GYW boot makers and eventually will make their way to .com and learn about the stitchdown models.

post #15415 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Akeem View Post

I doubt he invested in new tech/machinery to not use it to it's full potential.

What is your definition of "potential"?
post #15416 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

I know less than zero about their margins, products etc.or thought process...and I clearly can not do monetary conversions between Canada and the USA smile.gif   ..seems that GYW gives them a way to deliver 3 to 5 styles in a complete run to a vendor at one time...making that a really nice billable for Viberg. Multiply that by several vendors...especially new vendors that most likely do not want to start promoting a company like Viberg  based on receiving a single boot run however for 3-5 it is worth it.

Hopefully as they build up the the revenue stream from new and current vendors with GYW that will allow them to focus on using.com to showcase some really cool leathers, different lasts, new designs and more stitchdown. There will be a whole new segment of buyers who only know Viberg as a GYW boot makers and eventually will make their way to .com and learn about the stitchdown models.

I'm not a cobbler, but I'm under the impression they can make more boots per day with less or equal labor and material with the GYW, therefor more profitable for .com sales and able to offer lower prices to the sellers that move big volume. But if .com, and small stockist sales decline, they may have to make the decision to do less GYW.
post #15417 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Teeka View Post

Just got my mahogany shell, a bit delay but better than never 😄. VB troops were amazing supports especially Drew, great guy!

Still 2 days of breaking in and start to see creases and patina which I hope it will turn nicely with age.

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This is different than the recent run. Where did these come from?
post #15418 of 19319
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Originally Posted by NYDRH View Post

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Originally Posted by lifeinabox View Post

Are the majority of new Vibergs going to be GYW? I thought it was an occasional thing that Brett was trying out.

I'm noticing a pattern wink.gif

I think when the last 4 or 5 non shell 2030s on gyw are virtually unsold they may start noticing a pattern as well.

Indeed. It's a faster, cheaper construction method, and less sound. It's weird. On one hand he wants to hold on to his artistic vision, but on the other he wants to make the production line cheaper and faster.
post #15419 of 19319
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Originally Posted by ShootThePier View Post

What is your definition of "potential"?

increased production and efficiency
post #15420 of 19319
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Originally Posted by gsgleason View Post

This is different than the recent run. Where did these come from?

what is different on these? the color is very cigarish
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