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post #15286 of 19319
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Originally Posted by austunner View Post
 

I received my 2030 Charcoal Calf in 8 today. 

I had some concerns about sizing but went with the recommendation from the folks at Viberg.

The Alden Indys below are 8.5 and the 2 boots are almost the same in length. 

As reference, I'm 9 on the brannock, 9D in my AE shoes, 8.5D in Rancourt loafers. 

The Indys are a bit wider in the forefoot and thus, a bit more comfortable (suede also helps), but I appreciate the more slender profile of the 2030.

Since I'm in CA and I wear dress socks, the 2030s are not too snug width-wise and in terms of toe wiggle room, they're in between the indys and my dress shoes. 

The heel is locked in nicely and I have enough room between the front and toe. 

 

The one concern I have it this crease on the outside of one boot. It's a bit softer than the other boot in the same spot and doesn't seem like a dent made by the edge of something hard. 

It definitely is a crease of some sort, though none of my other shoes have creases in this spot after much wear. 

Any thoughts on if this is acceptable as part of the guidi leather patina/variability/character?

 

The rest of the boot is great, stitching is spot on, reverse welt is smooth and even and the calf leather with lining is surprisingly thick. 

 

 

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I wouldnt be happy with that, particularly if it feels thinner in that area.  If the consistency of the leather isn't uniform that area will always be a more likely point of failure, and that is not going to improve with wear (most likely it will get worse). I'd try to get something else, preferably in stitchdown.

post #15287 of 19319
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BA_YhQ4igng/

Looks like some nice stuff on the way

 

 

Is this their setup for fashion week or whatever?  https://www.instagram.com/p/BAsWrUhrple/

Dont know how i feel about them going so far as to attend fashion week...

post #15288 of 19319
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Is this their setup for fashion week or whatever?  https://www.instagram.com/p/BAsWrUhrple/
Dont know how i feel about them going so far as to attend fashion week...


Yes indeed

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBArQIBLpp6/
post #15289 of 19319
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Is this their setup for fashion week or whatever?  https://www.instagram.com/p/BAsWrUhrple/
Dont know how i feel about them going so far as to attend fashion week...


But...they're a fashion brand now. Only makes sense, no?
post #15290 of 19319
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Is this their setup for fashion week or whatever?  https://www.instagram.com/p/BAsWrUhrple/
Dont know how i feel about them going so far as to attend fashion week...


But...they're a fashion brand now. Only makes sense, no?

Yep - agree...good for them...not easy for Canadian companies these days

post #15291 of 19319
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Yep - agree...good for them...not easy for Canadian companies these days

I would think the weak Loonie would be great for Viberg. Although they do import nearly all their raw materials, I would think labor is their main expense. Thus, they are winning when people buy their products in USD.
post #15292 of 19319
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Yep - agree...good for them...not easy for Canadian companies these days

I would think the weak Loonie would be great for Viberg. Although they do import nearly all their raw materials, I would think labor is their main expense. Thus, they are winning when people buy their products in USD.

 

I certainly am no expert for sure. I only know that I have only 30% of the business I used to have with Canadian companies as they are not bringing in goods from the states due to the conversion rates. They all talk of poor economy and recession. Viberg I guess they are doing well with orders placed on .com as those are in USD. Interesting for sure. I assume any sales from US still gets hit with the conversion so an $800 order is only going to convert to $560 in their account. Of course they could be sophisticated enough to have a US holding company for their USA sales.

 

So if they are paying 30% more for materials and receiving 30% less from US sales...and probably have not cut their employees pay I would think they are lucky that they rolled out the GYW process and could supply a place like End with a full line in one shot.

 

Anyone know more about this type of stuff, would love to hear your thoughts.

 

I wonder what their sales in Canada are these days. 

post #15293 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

I certainly am no expert for sure. I only know that I have only 30% of the business I used to have with Canadian companies as they are not bringing in goods from the states due to the conversion rates. They all talk of poor economy and recession. Viberg I guess they are doing well with orders placed on .com as those are in USD. Interesting for sure. I assume any sales from US still gets hit with the conversion so an $800 order is only going to convert to $560 in their account. Of course they could be sophisticated enough to have a US holding company for their USA sales.

So if they are paying 30% more for materials and receiving 30% less from US sales...and probably have not cut their employees pay I would think they are lucky that they rolled out the GYW process and could supply a place like End with a full line in one shot.

Anyone know more about this type of stuff, would love to hear your thoughts.

I wonder what their sales in Canada are these days. 

Really interesting thoughts. I too would be fascinated to know if anyone has any further insights or infomartion.
post #15294 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

I certainly am no expert for sure. I only know that I have only 30% of the business I used to have with Canadian companies as they are not bringing in goods from the states due to the conversion rates. They all talk of poor economy and recession. Viberg I guess they are doing well with orders placed on .com as those are in USD. Interesting for sure. I assume any sales from US still gets hit with the conversion so an $800 order is only going to convert to $560 in their account. Of course they could be sophisticated enough to have a US holding company for their USA sales.

So if they are paying 30% more for materials and receiving 30% less from US sales...and probably have not cut their employees pay I would think they are lucky that they rolled out the GYW process and could supply a place like End with a full line in one shot.

Anyone know more about this type of stuff, would love to hear your thoughts.

I wonder what their sales in Canada are these days. 

Are you sure about that conversion? I see $800 USD converting to $1131.65 CAD. If they are getting paid in USD and paying labor, utilities, lease/mortgage in CAD, then for those costs they are doing great.
How could they be paying 30% more to US vendors, AND at the same time getting 30% less from US sales? Doesn't make sense.
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

I certainly am no expert for sure. I only know that I have only 30% of the business I used to have with Canadian companies as they are not bringing in goods from the states due to the conversion rates. They all talk of poor economy and recession. Viberg I guess they are doing well with orders placed on .com as those are in USD. Interesting for sure. I assume any sales from US still gets hit with the conversion so an $800 order is only going to convert to $560 in their account. Of course they could be sophisticated enough to have a US holding company for their USA sales.

So if they are paying 30% more for materials and receiving 30% less from US sales...and probably have not cut their employees pay I would think they are lucky that they rolled out the GYW process and could supply a place like End with a full line in one shot.

Anyone know more about this type of stuff, would love to hear your thoughts.

I wonder what their sales in Canada are these days. 

Are you sure about that conversion? I see $800 USD converting to $1131.65 CAD. Do if they are getting paid in USD and paying labor, utilities, lease/mortgage in CAD, then for those costs they are doing great.

 

I certainly am not sure.....We get paid in US funds so they have to do the conversion to pay us before hand...I guess that would then get reversed going the other way with your example and that would make sense...i think...LOL

 

Edit....yes as long as they are collecting in US dollars they make out( I actually called one of my customers) He did say that they get killed on their operating expenses in the US which outside of a trade show I assume Viberg does not have that issue.

post #15296 of 19319

Canadian customers are the real losers here. Their prices are in US$ so the boots that were in the 600-700ss $CAD last year are now 900-1000 $CAD.  Disappointing.....

post #15297 of 19319
Fashion can be a fickle thing, I hope Viberg keeps that in mind with their business strategy. Work boots will sell year in and year out if you make them to a high standard and price them fairly. What will happen when everybody decides they want to wear artisanal sandals made out of llama leather by blind Peruvian indigenous people using ancient Incan techniques?
post #15298 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post
 

 

I certainly am no expert for sure. I only know that I have only 30% of the business I used to have with Canadian companies as they are not bringing in goods from the states due to the conversion rates. They all talk of poor economy and recession. Viberg I guess they are doing well with orders placed on .com as those are in USD. Interesting for sure. I assume any sales from US still gets hit with the conversion so an $800 order is only going to convert to $560 in their account. Of course they could be sophisticated enough to have a US holding company for their USA sales.

 

So if they are paying 30% more for materials and receiving 30% less from US sales...and probably have not cut their employees pay I would think they are lucky that they rolled out the GYW process and could supply a place like End with a full line in one shot.

 

Anyone know more about this type of stuff, would love to hear your thoughts.

 

I wonder what their sales in Canada are these days. 


I'm pretty sure this is not how it works. Viberg is in a pretty unique position relative to most other Canadian companies.  The have a VERY desirable product that they can value in US dollars regardless of the value of the Looney.  Example back when the CND/USD was roughly equal a typical company could sell something for $700 in the US or Canada it would make little difference; it was all like one big pie (but the US piece was larger since we have a bigger market).  Now, unlike a typical company, Viberg can still get 700 US$ for a pair of boots because the demand out weighs the supply, and charge Canadians more say 1000 CN$.  If the Canadians balk so what they'll sell them outside the country no problem.

 

As far as them having to source materials in US$, they still had to do that in the past, and they can still pay for it with the 700 US$ or 1000 CN$ (from the Canadians who have to have Vibergs and can afford the higher Canadian price).  Basically, because they have pricing power, they can price their goods in line with the cost of their materials, and not suffer a meaningful loss in sales.  More over their competitors have to source their materials from the same source (you can't sell a pair of Horween Leather Boots without going through Horween), unless they too have the same pricing power that Viberg has, they're the ones who feel the pain.  Like Dayton, they MOSTLY have to keep there prices based on the cost of their boots in Loonies, hence they cost less in US$. Though, I suspect they still do a significant portion of their business in the US, which gives them the consolation of possibly selling more units than before because they are cheaper.  

 

Viberg is still paying their employees in Loonies, so when they convert their US$ to Loonies they have more Loonies.   Unless they raise their employees wages, they benefit from bringing in the harder US currency.  In fact if Viberg felt any slow down in demand, they could just lower the prices a touch and still maintain their previous profit margins because they're labor cost are largely unaffected (unless there is rampant wage inflation).

 

The companies that REALLY have the ability to clean up are those who source their materials from Canada at a similar cost to the past, but sell most of their product in the US (or other country with a strong currency).  Say something like Canadian Ice Wine.  The companies that are really hurt are ones that a) have something universal thats prices on a global market (Canadian Oil companies) or b) have to source their raw materials outside of Canada and sell primarily to Canadians.

 

 

That explanation was a little all over the place and glosses over a few things, but hopefully it makes sense.

post #15299 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post
 

 

I certainly am not sure.....We get paid in US funds so they have to do the conversion to pay us before hand...I guess that would then get reversed going the other way with your example and that would make sense...i think...LOL

 

Edit....yes as long as they are collecting in US dollars they make out( I actually called one of my customers) He did say that they get killed on their operating expenses in the US which outside of a trade show I assume Viberg does not have that issue.


Right, because they need your service and have to pay you in US$, they have to cutback to the minimum since they are likely getting paid for their business in CN$.  I certainly don't want to dimmish what you do, but if they have any amount of discretion in how much they can spend on your service or product they are going to cut that.  If they can't (i.e. your essential) then they will have to take the hit or pass it along to the next guy.  Its funny how trickle works in economics: its easy to trickle up, but not so easy to trickle down.

post #15300 of 19319
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post
 

 

I certainly am not sure.....We get paid in US funds so they have to do the conversion to pay us before hand...I guess that would then get reversed going the other way with your example and that would make sense...i think...LOL

 

Edit....yes as long as they are collecting in US dollars they make out( I actually called one of my customers) He did say that they get killed on their operating expenses in the US which outside of a trade show I assume Viberg does not have that issue.


Right, because they need your service and have to pay you in US$, they have to cutback to the minimum since they are likely getting paid for their business in CN$.  I certainly don't want to dimmish what you do, but if they have any amount of discretion in how much they can spend on your service or product they are going to cut that.  If they can't (i.e. your essential) then they will have to take the hit or pass it along to the next guy.  Its funny how trickle works in economics: its easy to trickle up, but not so easy to trickle down.

 

Thanks for the write up above...well done...and it certainly makes sense...yes we are an easy cut for Canadian companies...luckily only made up about 10% of total business but still that was a growing area. 

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