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post #14596 of 19320
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Originally Posted by Dugafola View Post
 

are lace to toe oxfords strictly a Japanese thing? 

 

Can't say with regard to Viberg, but Wesco and Whites do it for the domestic market.  I like the Wesco in particular -- the Viberg lacing comes too far down the toe, imo.  Actually, come to think of it, I think I've seen Viberg lace-to-toe at a Canadian dealer.

post #14597 of 19320
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Sorry, I meant to respond to you as well in my last post. This is also very helpful. I love the natural CXL, so I may just keep rocking those and wait on another makeup. I'm still holding out hope that those shell service boots are going to be released by .com ....
Oh, what I failed to mention, w/c @Bootspell so eloquently brought out__ is that, though there are some evo nuances, I'd pick & stick to a version ... & wait out for the next "wave".
post #14598 of 19320
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Originally Posted by Akeem View Post


what were they doing before? isn't this standard?


Re: Viberg doing channeled insoles, I think that they are currently using gemming.  I've only got web knowledge on what all this means.  Apparently aficionados debate what is better:  See here: http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/04/mythbuster-gemming-is-bad.html  Reading that, I could see how a machined channeled insole fits nicely with Viberg's way of doing things.  So if they aren't already doing this in production now, it would make sense to me that they would aspire to in the future.

post #14599 of 19320
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Originally Posted by Akeem View Post

what were they doing before? isn't this standard?


Re: Viberg doing channeled insoles, I think that they are currently using gemming.  I've only got web knowledge on what all this means.  Apparently aficionados debate what is better:  See here: http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/04/mythbuster-gemming-is-bad.html  Reading that, I could see how a machined channeled insole fits nicely with Viberg's way of doing things.  So if they aren't already doing this in production now, it would make sense to me that they would aspire to in the future.

Since their move to GYW is primarily financially oriented, I find it hard to believe they'd go toward channeled insoles vs gemming for standard offerings.
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I just cancel my preorder due to the change of eyelets which is the main reason to order at the first place. PRC told me Virberg no longer doing 10 eyelets.

wonder how many orders will get cancelled because of that. I agree on 10 eyelets.

I had ordered the 10 eyelet version before, but had to sell them because they were too small. They only offered sizes up to 11, and I needed an 11.5, and it was my first Viberg boot, so it was my first sizing experiment.

Anyway, I think 10 eyelets looked excessive, personally, and would welcome the change to 8 mini eyelets instead, similar to the bison boots.
post #14601 of 19320
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Originally Posted by COUNCILORANGE View Post

More fuel for the 310 fire.


Take my money if these can get made

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/extinct/ihvb-04-b-o-t.html
post #14602 of 19320
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Originally Posted by dekalog View Post


I just cancel my preorder due to the change of eyelets which is the main reason to order at the first place. PTC told me Viberg no longer doing 10 eyelets.

 

I was about to as well, but they're changing my mind on that now. I gotta make up my mind ASAP!

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Originally Posted by NYDRH View Post
 

 

 

I'm curious do you guys already own similar boots with 7 eyelets?  I hope you don't take this the wrong way because Im not trying to judge or ridicule.  I know details matter and we all get pretty focused on specifics (myself included) but once you put them on and I presume you are wearing pants you never even see it, and if you really like the boots and want to wear them it is difficult for me to understand how this would be enough for you to want to cancel.

 

 

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I had ordered the 10 eyelet version before, but had to sell them because they were too small. They only offered sizes up to 11, and I needed an 11.5, and it was my first Viberg boot, so it was my first sizing experiment.

Anyway, I think 10 eyelets looked excessive, personally, and would welcome the change to 8 mini eyelets instead, similar to the bison boots.
post #14603 of 19320
Viberg natural bison. 1035 last, 8 mini eyelets. I really like them. They exhibit very little break.

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Viberg natural bison. 1035 last, 8 mini eyelets. I really like them. They exhibit very little break.
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Oh man they look great!

post #14605 of 19320
Just realized viberg sent my natural bison right boot with 7 regular eyelets and my left with 8 mini eyelets....
Whoops.

Email sent

post #14606 of 19320
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Originally Posted by jsd642 View Post

Just realized viberg sent my natural bison right boot with 7 regular eyelets and my left with 8 mini eyelets....
Whoops.

Email sent
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Now that is an eyelet issue I would consider canceling an order for hahahaha. Although goes to show the eyelets arent always noticed. That is really too bad, Im sure they will figure out a satisfactory outcome for you, their customer service has always been responsive for me with any issues.

post #14607 of 19320
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Originally Posted by dekalog View Post

I just cancel my preorder due to the change of eyelets which is the main reason to order at the first place. PTC told me Viberg no longer doing 10 eyelets.

I think that you guys need to understand Viberg to understand the reasons for some of these changes and the reason that Viberg insists on certain things being made a certain way.

 

Ultimately, a lot of what makes Viberg popular compared to many other companies with similar offerings is Brett Viberg.  Brett Viberg is really the creative director of Viberg.  I don't think that that's his official title, but that is what he is.  In years past, companies could order whatever they wanted, but a lot of those makeups either came out rather unattractively, or just didn't fit the Viberg aesthetic and image.  A lot of companies in North America do special makeups, either MTO or for Japanese shops, in a way that makes the companies more like a factory than anything else.  Viberg aspired to be much more than this, and has been generally successful, mainly because of Brett and also of the strategic decisions that he has made.  

 

This is pretty common, btw, for ANY company that wants to retain it's core identity even in MTO products.  I can't get Vanson make a jacket for me that does not speak to its motorcycling heritage.  I can't get Aero to make me a jacket that looks like an SLP jacket.  I can't get Edward Green to make me crazy boots in alligator and suede (I think).  Guidi allows you to choose the leather, the color, and the model, of which there are variants sometimes  (toe box or no toe box, vibram sole or no vibram sole).  And the lead times on those are long (it took mine nearly a year to get here.  They are at the cobblers getting topied right now).  

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Fok find the interview you guys did with Brett and Guy a couple years back, it had a very good explanation on where they were and are going.

Edit: found it.

http://www.styleforum.net/a/styleforum-visits-viberg-boot-company
Edited by Find Finn - 12/5/15 at 11:29am
post #14609 of 19320
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

I think that you guys need to understand Viberg to understand the reasons for some of these changes and the reason that Viberg insists on certain things being made a certain way.

Ultimately, a lot of what makes Viberg popular compared to many other companies with similar offerings is Brett Viberg.  Brett Viberg is really the creative director of Viberg.  I don't think that that's his official title, but that is what he is.  In years past, companies could order whatever they wanted, but a lot of those makeups either came out rather unattractively, or just didn't fit the Viberg aesthetic and image.  A lot of companies in North America do special makeups, either MTO or for Japanese shops, in a way that makes the companies more like a factory than anything else.  Viberg aspired to be much more than this, and has been generally successful, mainly because of Brett and also of the strategic decisions that he has made.  

This is pretty common, btw, for ANY company that wants to retain it's core identity even in MTO products.  I can't get Vanson make a jacket for me that does not speak to its motorcycling heritage.  I can't get Aero to make me a jacket that looks like an SLP jacket.  I can't get Edward Green to make me crazy boots in alligator and suede (I think).  Guidi allows you to choose the leather, the color, and the model, of which there are variants sometimes  (toe box or no toe box, vibram sole or no vibram sole).  And the lead times on those are long (it took mine nearly a year to get here.  They are at the cobblers getting topied right now).  
Folk,
I stopped reading your reply one sentence in. No offense, but there is no excuse for two different boots, I'm guessing Brett will 150% agree with that statement.
I am the "Brett Viberg" of my business. Businesses fail without customers. Especially when making changes to your core identity, you have to demonstrate consistency and care, no matter how different your product is. People work hard for their money, we should be willing to work equally as hard for their business.
No disrespect intended, but excuses are only excuses.
post #14610 of 19320
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Originally Posted by ShootThePier View Post


Folk,
I stopped reading your reply one sentence in. No offense, but there is no excuse for two different boots, I'm guessing Brett will 150% agree with that statement.
I am the "Brett Viberg" of my business. Businesses fail without customers. Especially when making changes to your core identity, you have to demonstrate consistency and care, no matter how different your product is. People work hard for their money, we should be willing to work equally as hard for their business.
No disrespect intended, but excuses are only excuses.

I dont want to put words in people's mouths but I think there are two different issues here and fok was only responding to one of them.  The first issue of the change of number of eyelets in a pre-order is what I believe he was addressing.  The second of the mismatched pair of boots, I dont think was included in his commentary. 

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