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post #1231 of 4567
Viberg should take advantage of the hype. For decades they have put out some of the best workboots $ can by in the westcoast. It would be different if they killed the workboot site and serviced the fashion side solely. But they haven't and fr what I can tell the prices are still relatively the same for their loyal workmen customers. The MTO was something that carried over fr the workboot site. Which cannot be maintained if they are to compete in the fashion world. 1. They can't slap their logo on every ugly boot we think looks good... It has to be in line with their identity--What they think is acceptable. Fr what I understand even the MTOs will be "guided" and options will not be as liberal. Keep in mind this is only for the fashionline and that their workboots will probably be the same. 2. Viberg is small and plan to continue the same quality and passion- w a greater demand for inventory. Most machines will be set up for greater production and a custom order can set them back. It's almost not worth it.
I just think as long as they keep servicing the workboot site, and stick to their 200+ step process, they're doing the right thing. They are using the same winning formula they have for decades--quality craft w premium materials. It's just now that the materials are -- horween/horsehide/guidi leathers
post #1232 of 4567
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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

Good to hear, want a pair as well but if its gonna be $800 I'll get carmina shell or edward green calf

Sure. Of course. It should be noted that Carmina and Edward Green, and Viberg, are different animals. I don't think that it makes much sense to compare one to the other.
post #1233 of 4567
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post


We will probably do some of each. Our minimums will be very low. All we will have to do is to find a very small number of people (literally a handful) who want the same thing. We'll open it up soon, after we finalize details with Brett.

Great. Looking forward to the oxford, hopefully it'll be something that I'll like.

post #1234 of 4567
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Originally Posted by mijama View Post

Viberg should take advantage of the hype.

Hype is a dangerous beast, that you should play with, if you a short term business plan, other wise it will come back and bite you in the ass.
post #1235 of 4567
Well, this price hike just confirms my Whites SDs vs Viberg Service Boots debate. Eight bills a hellova lot of scratch! You can practically get two pairs of MTO Whites for the price of one pair of Vibergs. Crazy
post #1236 of 4567
I think that having 2 separate lines that are essentially not associated in any way, except that the fashion line references the original, heritage, line, is usually a winning strategy. Of course, the devil is in the details, but it seems that every brand, be it heritage or sports, that has successfully made an entry into the fashion market without sacrificing its base, has taken this strategy. Nike, of course, is a great example. The way to do this most economically, but also with the least upside, is in licensing.

On a much cooler note, check out the beginnings of my MTO service boots, which are in a special "heather grey" leather, roughout, with the smooth side out on the heel counter. They will sit on a double leather midsole and a beige Vibram 2060 sole. I designed them specifically as "sneaker boots". If enough people want something like that, we can get them in the Styleforummarket MTO program. We will document the entire process.



Right now, I am planning a scout or service boots on a leather or Dainite sole, a pair of oxfords on the same, and a pair of chukkas on a Vibram sole. You guys would vote on the details so that we get something awesome. And it would be malleable. If people wanted 2 different pairs of boots, and there was less interest in the oxfords, we'd do that, etc... What do you guys think?
post #1237 of 4567

^ so what's the main difference between the scout and service boots?  is one heavier?

post #1238 of 4567
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

I think that having 2 separate lines that are essentially not associated in any way, except that the fashion line references the original, heritage, line, is usually a winning strategy. Of course, the devil is in the details, but it seems that every brand, be it heritage or sports, that has successfully made an entry into the fashion market without sacrificing its base, has taken this strategy. Nike, of course, is a great example. The way to do this most economically, but also with the least upside, is in licensing.

On a much cooler note, check out the beginnings of my MTO service boots, which are in a special "heather grey" leather, roughout, with the smooth side out on the heel counter. They will sit on a double leather midsole and a beige Vibram 2060 sole. I designed them specifically as "sneaker boots". If enough people want something like that, we can get them in the Styleforummarket MTO program. We will document the entire process.



Right now, I am planning a scout or service boots on a leather or Dainite sole, a pair of oxfords on the same, and a pair of chukkas on a Vibram sole. You guys would vote on the details so that we get something awesome. And it would be malleable. If people wanted 2 different pairs of boots, and there was less interest in the oxfords, we'd do that, etc... What do you guys think?

 

 

I would be in for this "sneaker boot" plus another service boot in something like Iced Mocca CXL, depending on last, sole, etc.

 

Here is a makeup I have been kicking around

 

 

style:           1950 Service Boot
leather:        Horween #8 CXL, Iced Mocca CXL or Brown Horsehide
toe cap:       Baroque Toe Cap (maybe straight but probably not)
last:             2130 Last
sole:            Dainite Sole
midsole:       Single Natural
hardware:     Brass Eyelets
post #1239 of 4567
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Originally Posted by Dbear View Post

^ so what's the main difference between the scout and service boots?  is one heavier?

There is a pictoral earlier in this thread, but the way the different pieces fit together is different. To a casual onlooker, they are cosmetically quite similar. Check out the two pictures below, and see how the heel counter on the Scout boot is longer, and how the front overlaps the heel counter. Also, check out the semi closed lacing, as opposed to the more traditional, blucher-style, construction of the Service boot. I also had a bunch of different stuff done on the MTO, so I decided that the actual boot design should be kept a little more traditional. There may be other differences that are not apparent to the eye. But if you are looking at the boot, these are the differences that you will see.

Scout boot:


Service boot:
post #1240 of 4567
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post


I would be in for this "sneaker boot" plus another service boot in something like Iced Mocca CXL, depending on last, sole, etc.

Here is a makeup I have been kicking around

1950 Service Boot
Horween #8 CXL, Iced Mocca CXL or Brown Horsehide
toe cap: Baroque Toe Cap (maybe straight but probably not)
last: 2130
sole: Dainite Sole
midsole: Single Natural
hardware: Brass Eyelets

Huh. That seems cool. I'm trying to picture it. Incidentally, if anyone is good at photoshop, and wants to do some piecework when we are doing the mockups for different MTO possibilities, email me at styleforummarket@gmail.com
post #1241 of 4567
It's very interesting to see what models will be proposed. I would be most interested in oxfords/service boots with lift round toe box.


Was thinking of ordering a pair similar to these service boots in the photo below when the weather gets cooler, and it would be great if there is a version that's kind of special.


post #1242 of 4567
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Huh. That seems cool. I'm trying to picture it. Incidentally, if anyone is good at photoshop, and wants to do some piecework when we are doing the mockups for different MTO possibilities, email me at styleforummarket@gmail.com

It should look pretty similar to this



I would also be in on a cordovan MTO service boot, but not sure if that is possible
post #1243 of 4567

I'll be more interested in Oxford.

post #1244 of 4567
Oxfords, chukkas, and boots, are all on the table. We built our little Styleforummarket (www.styleforummarket.com) to respond to the needs of this community, and the MTO program will be run on the forum. As long as we can get actual buy-in from a very small number of people, we can bring these things to you. It's going to be as simple as that (i.e. we will do the logistics for you guys.)

Cheers, and good night for now.

Fok.
post #1245 of 4567

Gentlemen,

 

I propose we construct two shoes (models from the Sample sale).

 

80. Chukka, No.8 Cordovan, Tan Lining, Dainite Sole/Heel, 2030 Last, No Box Toe.

111. Service Boot Hand Cut Sample Pattern, Mahogany Shell Cordovan, Fully Lined, Brogue Toe Cap, Dainite Sole, 2030 Last, No Box Toe.

 

Cordovan (#8, Cigar, whiskey, etc.) or Natural Chromexcel for both models.

The thought of contrasting leathers, an outlandish thick, or colored sole (orange, blue, purple) is unappealing.

 

I would love to hear suggestions.

 

 

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