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post #16 of 71
Thread Starter 
Some harsh comments on Torneau...

I will look for the Nomos Tagente.
post #17 of 71
[quote=gdl203]Sorry if you do not understand the meaning of the barfie, I find it pretty clear though... Whatever it means, it is certainly far more helpful than advising him to go to Tourneau. QUOTE]

So you believe offering a funny face, a "barfie," "is certainly far more helpful than advising him to go to Tourneau."

Whatever may be your view of Tourneau -- and I derive no benefit from simply offering the idea/name -- at least its a place that

1) is widely/nationally accessible,

2) offers a selection of watches, of all makes (from Patek, Vacheron and Audemars on the high end to IWC, Rolex, Jaegar and Cartier on the in-between level, and many labels below), and

3) is reasonably likely to help a member answer a question, or at least provide a starting point (something your "pretty clear" inside joke of the "barfie" -- "whatever it means" -- just doesn't do).

Not trying to offend, just illuminating our respective replies.
post #18 of 71
LARon - not trying to offend either. But to be clear - yes - advising anyone NOT to go to Tourneau for a watch purchase is more helpful than advising him to go.

So I'm just doing my part here and helping out a fellow member by telling him where NOT to shop
post #19 of 71
Its easy to be negative -- anyone can do it, and many people do. The goal here (in response to the member's question), however, is to be positive, to provide assistance. So, since you're pretty convinced about what he shouldn't do, how about now offering some guidance about what he should do, or where he should go. Then, you can say you've done a service.
post #20 of 71
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Originally Posted by LARon
Its easy to be negative -- anyone can do it, and many people do. The goal here (in response to the member's question), however, is to be positive, to provide assistance. So, since you're pretty convinced about what he shouldn't do, how about now offering some guidance about what he should do, or where he should go. Then, you can say you've done a service.

nah... I feel too lazy for that
post #21 of 71
Tourneau is the Neiman-Marcus of watch stores: nice merchandise, high prices, and generally unhelpful staff. I don't understand why it receives the vitriol from the WISes that it does; it's not a bad place to go window shopping.

To answer the original question: Start off by going to brick and mortars to get an idea of what is out there. Join Timezone.com and ask for recommendations on watches that fit your preferences and budget. Then make a list of possible buys and look for sources on the internet and in Timezone's Sales Corner.
post #22 of 71
A good source for nice, current watches is www.collectorstime.com.

A would also like to suggest a classic vintage watches as a good idea. One source to consider is one of the more consistent and reliable sellers of vintage watches on ebay, like jay641, ng-time, and davinci_watches. You can get a nice, solid gold watch from a known brand such as Omega for $300 - $800. And, if you ever have to sell it, you probably will get close to your money back, or, if you hold onto it for a while, you might make a profit.
post #23 of 71
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser
Tourneau is the Neiman-Marcus of watch stores: nice merchandise, high prices, and generally unhelpful staff. I don't understand why it receives the vitriol from the WISes that it does; it's not a bad place to go window shopping.

I agree with your assessment. I would also add that Tourneau is an Authorized Dealer for more top makers than any store in the world and their pre-owned selection is second to none. They stand behind their watches and they have a lot of juice with the makers in the event of any problems. That said, it's certainly not the place to chase price but it's definitely a great place to try on watches.
post #24 of 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by LARon
Its easy to be negative -- anyone can do it, and many people do. The goal here (in response to the member's question), however, is to be positive, to provide assistance. So, since you're pretty convinced about what he shouldn't do, how about now offering some guidance about what he should do, or where he should go. Then, you can say you've done a service.
He has been known...oh nevermind.

Lee, believe it or not the Mart in downtown Atlanta would be nice place to find popular brands at a discount. Its open on Friday's, Da Vinci jewelers for example will quote 35-40% off MSRP for Cartier.
post #25 of 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser
Tourneau is the Neiman-Marcus of watch stores: nice merchandise, high prices, and generally unhelpful staff. I don't understand why it receives the vitriol from the WISes that it does; it's not a bad place to go window shopping.

I don't know where you live but WIS hate Tourneau for all the right reasons: the staff is NOT helpful at all, they just try to make a quick sale. They have on average zero knowledge of the products they sell or horology in general. Actually, this is the best place to get inaccurate and grossly wrong information on timepieces. Their customer service sucks. There are literally hundreds of stories and anecdotes supporting the statements above. I read dozens of them myself. Now, if you want to deal with dishonest salespeople who where selling socks last week and will be selling juicers next week, listen to their wrong information before you drop several grands on a watch - fine with me - go to Tourneau. If you don't, go to Cellini or Wempe or any other serious watch store.

Just trying to help here and transfer a little bit of the knowledge I've accumulated in 6-7 years of participation in watch enthusiast message boards and communities. Now, do whatever you want with my advice
post #26 of 71
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Originally Posted by whnay.
He has been known...

Coming from you, this is a compliment of the highest level
post #27 of 71
I went to Tourneau once and told them that I wanted to buy a 1960s pie-pan dial Rolex Datejust in steel. They didn't have any in stock, but they checked in the computer and verified for me that they could have the watch in a few days. First they never called me back when the first watch they'd located turned out to be unavailable, and after a $500 deposit each successive watch they offered to ship in for me was less what I'd asked for than the last. The last watch he tried to sell me was a 34mm oysterdate in gold. Needless to say, I don't rate them highly. The salesman also told me after I'd commented on the red/black alternating dates on the new DJs that the red signified the weekend.

I would also like to debate your point that their preowned selection is second-to-none. Even at their flagship NY store, their pre-owned selection is pretty lackluster - nothing particularly interesting - and mostly TT Rolexes. I'm not so good with watch shops in NY, but in LA we have http://www.wannabuyawatch.com/ which has an extremely extensive vintage selection.

If money is no object (and if you're limiting yourself to $2k on a dress watch it is) please shop at Tourneau and feel confident in your decision. Tourneau offers a strange warranty that protects against case damage for 2 years if you're buying pre-owned (or so they told me). I ended up buying a new DJ from bernardwatch.com for a pretty competitive price (and no sales tax).

For vintage watches though, wannabuyawatch in LA is the best I've seen in a while. http://www.wannabuyawatch.com/



Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasso
I agree with your assessment. I would also add that Tourneau is an Authorized Dealer for more top makers than any store in the world and their pre-owned selection is second to none. They stand behind their watches and they have a lot of juice with the makers in the event of any problems. That said, it's certainly not the place to chase price but it's definitely a great place to try on watches.
post #28 of 71
Finally, after five posts, and a lot of attitude, you finally get two names from gdl203 -- Cellini and Wempe. Yet, even those come with the attitude laden post-script: "Now, do whatever you want with my advice."

Prince of a guy, eh.
post #29 of 71
Thread Starter 
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Lee, believe it or not the Mart in downtown Atlanta would be nice place to find popular brands at a discount. Its open on Friday's, Da Vinci jewelers for example will quote 35-40% off MSRP for Cartier.

Very valuable info Bill. Thanks!
post #30 of 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by LARon
Prince of a guy, eh.

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