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I love these kind of comments. With the greatest respect to your personal style preferences, almost any kind of lapel or other tailoring detail can be pulled off if worn with confidence and flair and the right combination of shirt etc. I have my personal preferences in vintage wear (early 1930s and early 1960s), but if you worry about things like 'dated' lapel styles in themselves, you probably shouldn't buy suits at all because good suits are an investment that lasts a long time - are you just going to hide them in the back of your closet until the fashion police decide that the lapel style is acceptable again?
It's the Spencer model which I happen to love. Too bad not in my size.
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I love these kind of comments. With the greatest respect to your personal style preferences, almost any kind of lapel or other tailoring detail can be pulled off if worn with confidence and flair and the right combination of shirt etc. I have my personal preferences in vintage wear (early 1930s and early 1960s), but if you worry about things like 'dated' lapel styles in themselves, you probably shouldn't buy suits at all because good suits are an investment that lasts a long time - are you just going to hide them in the back of your closet until the fashion police decide that the lapel style is acceptable again?
He's right - the lapels do look dated. It's cool if you're into vintage stuff but you shouldn't really look at clothing as an investment.
I wouldn't wear something just because I liked it 20 years ago...
Thanks for the response.
First of all, fine shoes and suits are an investment (and I mean a personal investment not a financial one here), especially if you don't have the income to treat them as disposable items. There are plenty of things I have that I hope I will still be able to wear in twenty year's time. Not everything, obviously...
Datedness consists of two components: historical change in things like cut and colour, and perception. Unless you are talking very large changes like the move from unstructured shirts to fitted shirts in the C19th, the former is more usually clear when it comes to fashion - i.e. no-one really favour shit-brown suits with enormous collars and flared trousers - but not, I would argue, style. A lof of the rest is a result of the way in which our conscious judgements are affected by rather superficial but pervasive social influences. And actually this aspect of perception is easily overcome by the way in which clothes are worn in combination, not simply whether a lapel or a line is 'now', and the confidence and flair of the wearer. Again, not for everything, but the better the fundamental quality of the clothes the more this holds.
I'm not interested in vintage because it's vintage, but because I think the vintage pieces I have look good whether they are clearly of a certain period or not. Anyway, we are moving to a more general discussion if we go down this route rather than addressing the specifics of the pieces in question.
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I am pretty ignorant when it comes to clothes shopping especially in the suits department and I would be really grateful if you senior members could give me some advice on spotting bargains or identifying quality clothes/suits etc.
Thus far I'm having trouble finding stuff of my size as I'm a 35~36S range. Thanks guys!

I'm not interested in vintage because it's vintage, but because I think the vintage pieces I have look good whether they are clearly of a certain period or not. Anyway, we are moving to a more general discussion if we go down this route rather than addressing the specifics of the pieces in question.
Well, therein lies the rub - some vintage pieces don't age too much and still look excellent after 70 years. Others, however, particularly those from the 1980s and early 1990s, age very badly.
I saw a picture of Charlie Sheen recently, where he was wearing a white t-shirt with a jacket in a black and silver weave. The lapel seams were half-way down his chest and the seams were so slanted that they were almost vertical.
Now, that might be a particularly egregious example, but if you happened to wear such a jacket nowadays, most people - even those not interested in fashion - would still think that you looked like a time-traveller from the 1980s and that your clothing was, therefore, very dated.
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