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post #16 of 25
Some of the best products for finer leather product contains mink oil. Saphir renovatuer is one of them. How many more lies can we see?
post #17 of 25

Bare with me please as I bring this thread back to life for a second.

 

I have both Saphir's saddle soap and Lexol's leather cleaner and I've always been debating which one to use.

I found these 2 articles on saddle soap after doing some research:

 

" "It's application," (...) "has caused considerable permanent damage to significant objects since its components cannot be easily rinsed out (...)"

 

"The high oil content in saddle soap, however, reduces its ability to remove dirt effectively."

 

"The use of saddle soap as a leather conditioner is questionable as well. A strong nonacid emulsion (pH 9 - pH 10), the high alkalinity level of the emulsion (from the soap itself) alters the acidity of the leather, and may cause the fabric to shrink and crack over time."

 

http://voices.yahoo.com/saddle-soap-truths-97557.html

 

"Saddle soap is a good leather cleaner and conditioner? Well, not exactly.  Saddle soap products are extremely economical and very commonly used, but aren't necessarily your best choice for keeping your fine leather saddle and tack in top-notch condition.  Soaps are high alkaline, which can damage the leather and can darken it.  Soap also removes leather's tanning agents, which can lead to hardening and cracking as the leather is detanned."

 

http://info.mannapro.com/mannaproanimalcareblog/bid/67623/4-Common-Leather-Care-Myths-from-Lexol-Leather-Care

 

Obviously after the cleaning process the use of mink oil & cream conditioner will provide the leather with plenty of nourishment and hydration, so I don't think the hardening is really an issue here , however, these articles do make me reconsider my position on saddle soap...

 

Thoughts?

 

- Suave

post #18 of 25

any thoughts gents?

post #19 of 25
Why do you need saddle soap- shoes are not saddles...
post #20 of 25
We (Avel/Saphir) do not actually make a true Saddle Soap.....we make a Regenerating Soap that is glycerine based, like a Saddle Soap, but not as strong. Even then, this product is inside of our Equestrian range and we state in our care guides that it is for 'rustic leathers'. Meaning not finished/dress calfskins. I do use it on shell cordovan however. We do make a true Saddle Soap in Tarrago but, again, it is marketed to the Equestrian Trade.
post #21 of 25

I've only used Saphir's Renomat when in need of a total cleanse. Then a coat of Saphir Renovateur to rejuvenate the leather. Has worked out just fine and all shoes are in as good a shape as they could be.

 

I really can't understand why one would need to use saddle soap unless the shoes are extremely dirty. And washing ones shoes four times a year with saddle soap? lol. On crack...

post #22 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by RIDER View Post

We (Avel/Saphir) do not actually make a true Saddle Soap.....we make a Regenerating Soap that is glycerine based, like a Saddle Soap, but not as strong. Even then, this product is inside of our Equestrian range and we state in our care guides that it is for 'rustic leathers'. Meaning not finished/dress calfskins. I do use it on shell cordovan however. We do make a true Saddle Soap in Tarrago but, again, it is marketed to the Equestrian Trade.

Thanks for the reply!

By "we" and "make" I'm guessing you mean"offer" and are referring to your site rideboot and your ability to distribute said products.

post #23 of 25
Sure thing.

No, my wife and I have 3 businesses.....one of which is managing the distribution and warehousing of Saphir, Saphir Medaille D'Or, La Cordonnerie Anglaise & Tarrago products. We are the stock house, and the shops that sell these products get them from us - including the poorly managed but will get better riderbootshop.com site, which is another company of mine and is for retail. It confuses my wife also.....
post #24 of 25

Awesome!

 

While I've got your attention, I noticed some distributors sell the Saphir cleaning soap, have you had any experience using this products and if so, what's your take on it?

 

http://www.hangerproject.com/shoe-care/brand/saphir/saphir-cleaning-soap.html

post #25 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiaogou View Post

I've always read not to use saddle soap on finer leather. AE is in that camp.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyOtherLife View Post

Never. It is SOAP. Soap emulsifies the natural oils in the leather, leaving residue and drying the leather out. It should never be used ever and there is absolutely no need for it.

 

Hate to drag this thread up from the past, but I felt I should add this for information:

 

Email from Allen Edmonds:

On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Retail Brookfield #10 <brookfield@allenedmonds.com> wrote:


Saddle soap is the right thing to use on those.
 

 


t 262-785-6666

Allen Edmonds
Galleria West 18900 W Bluemound Rd, Ste 106 | Brookfield, WI 53045-6092
AllenEdmonds.com

 

 

My e-mail to Allen Edmonds:
From: Echo 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:53 PM
To: Retail Brookfield #10
Subject: Re: Allen Edmonds shipment notification
 
Hello,
 
I had just been thinking, what shoe polish would you recommend for these [Ashbury] boots?  I haven’t seen a “tan” colour on the polish colour options @ allenedmonds.com.
 
Thanks!!
 
Echo

 

 

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