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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post

Your dress watches, Wright Watches, are too big at 40mm, despite what your copy says on your website. 36-38mm is the spot on size for dress watches today. 40mm and over is fine for dive and sport watches but not for dress watches. As regular SF user Mafoofan rightly says in the TWAT thread, 40mm is the size of the Submariner and you don't want your dress watch to be the same size as the Submariner (I'm paraphrasing). He's right there. Don't go along with the large watch trend. If you want to produce classic, timeless dress watches, making them 40mm isn't the way to go IMO.

 

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Agreed.  I'd prefer a thinner case as well.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

post #6002 of 6351
You can see the case is too wide by how far in the date window is. It should be closer to the outer edge.
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post

You can see the case is too wide by how far in the date window is. It should be closer to the outer edge.

I respect your opinion regarding the size and the type of the watch but to be honest isn't this just a matter of preference? We saw a lot of 40mm dress watches and trust me on the wrist it doesn't look big at all. About the case size, due to the sapphire crystal and Miyota 8215 it couldn't get any thinner but again 11.90mm counts as a thick watch? 

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I think Seiko makes up for this on some of their JDM models. 

Thanks for pointing that out, didn't know about those. Do you have a good source for buying/information?
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Originally Posted by Wright Watches View Post
 

I respect your opinion regarding the size and the type of the watch but to be honest isn't this just a matter of preference? We saw a lot of 40mm dress watches and trust me on the wrist it doesn't look big at all. About the case size, due to the sapphire crystal and Miyota 8215 it couldn't get any thinner but again 11.90mm counts as a thick watch? 

 

It's not just that it's a 40 mm watch as it is the fact it is a 40mm watch that is all dial with a small bezel.  For comparison purposes, look at the Nomos Orion, which is 38 mm with a small bezel and can look oversized on some wrists. 

 

12 mm is also somewhat thick for that style of watch, but not too thick for a more casual or sporty watch.

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Originally Posted by Sander View Post


Thanks for pointing that out, didn't know about those. Do you have a good source for buying/information?

 

Chino Watch and Higuchi are two that get recommended frequently. 

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post
 

 

It's not just that it's a 40 mm watch as it is the fact it is a 40mm watch that is all dial with a small bezel.  For comparison purposes, look at the Nomos Orion, which is 38 mm with a small bezel and can look oversized on some wrists. 

 

12 mm is also somewhat thick for that style of watch, but not too thick for a more casual or sporty watch.

I respect your opinion and your points! I can't argue on those points because i truly believe is a matter of taste/preference. Have a nice day/week :)

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Originally Posted by Sander View Post


Thanks for pointing that out, didn't know about those. Do you have a good source for buying/information?

I have had good experiences with Chino. 

 

I really need to get some pictures up. 

 

Speaking of watch size, the SARX019 is 40mm and doesn't look big on my small wrists, so it can be done with careful design. The SARX029 is my favorite. 

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Originally Posted by Wright Watches View Post
 

Would you be interested in a luxury dress watch? Or only into dive / pilot watches?

After looking at your watches, I really like the design and the enamaled dial.

 

My critique would be that, given the protruding lugs, it would be too big for someone with a smaller wrist. 

 

So also offering a 36mm would be a great second option. 

 

Also I like roman numerals, but would be great to have the option for arabic numbers as well. 

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Originally Posted by Sander View Post


Thanks for pointing that out, didn't know about those. Do you have a good source for buying/information?

 

I like seiya japan.

 

seiyajapan.com

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The current trend is for oversized watches, but those such watches will look naff once that trend ends (as all fads do). If you want your dress watch to be timeless, at least in size, then it isn't just opinion per sé, but it's backed up by decades worth of dress watches that are the 'proper' size for that style of watch and fits the greatest amount of wrist sizes. Dress watches are meant to be subtle, small-ish, melt into the wrist practically. 38mm is really the largest a dress watch should ever be. Anything above that is casual/sport size.
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post

The current trend is for oversized watches, but those such watches will look naff once that trend ends (as all fads do). If you want your dress watch to be timeless, at least in size, then it isn't just opinion per sé, but it's backed up by decades worth of dress watches that are the 'proper' size for that style of watch and fits the greatest amount of wrist sizes. Dress watches are meant to be subtle, small-ish, melt into the wrist practically. 38mm is really the largest a dress watch should ever be. Anything above that is casual/sport size.

Agree for the most part. I've seen some exceptional pieces at 39mm that wear and look smaller, so I'd put that at the situationally dependent size. Anything larger is, as you noted, casual.
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^ You're right, usc, 39mm is borderline but can still work depending on the watch.
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post

The current trend is for oversized watches, but those such watches will look naff once that trend ends (as all fads do). If you want your dress watch to be timeless, at least in size, then it isn't just opinion per sé, but it's backed up by decades worth of dress watches that are the 'proper' size for that style of watch and fits the greatest amount of wrist sizes. Dress watches are meant to be subtle, small-ish, melt into the wrist practically. 38mm is really the largest a dress watch should ever be. Anything above that is casual/sport size.

 

The problem is that everything is a fad/trend and many of these things are cyclical. Accepted, some trends last longer than others but it doesnt mean what was on trend now (or more commonly "last year") was the "right" solution and that prior/future ones are wrong.

 

I personally think 38mm is the sweet spot for a dress watch but accept some watches appear larger and others smaller than their measurements would suggest so dont automatically rule out a 40mm if it appears smaller on the wrist.

 

On the flip side in the 1960s 38mm would have been considered far too big, a colleague is big on his vintage omegas and the largest case side he has is 34mm. To me they look stupidly small on his wrist (he's 6'5 and well over 250 lbs) but he thinks its how it should be and anything over 34mm is part of this oversized watch trend that will end as all fads do. So my, and your, preference for 38mm is as much a fad to him and his 60s upbringing as the 40-42mm trend of today is to us.

 

Having not seen the Wright Watches in the flesh I cannot comment on how they wear, but as per the now deleted thread, my bigger concern would be the 12mm thickness for a basic date watch which is extremely thick for a dress watch without a serious number of complications. I understand that the watch has been designed to a price point and miniaturisation costs money and thus to keep the price the thickness has to suffer but it would rule itself out for me on that point alone.

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Originally Posted by Astaroth View Post
 

 

The problem is that everything is a fad/trend and many of these things are cyclical. Accepted, some trends last longer than others but it doesnt mean what was on trend now (or more commonly "last year") was the "right" solution and that prior/future ones are wrong.

 

I personally think 38mm is the sweet spot for a dress watch but accept some watches appear larger and others smaller than their measurements would suggest so dont automatically rule out a 40mm if it appears smaller on the wrist.

 

On the flip side in the 1960s 38mm would have been considered far too big, a colleague is big on his vintage omegas and the largest case side he has is 34mm. To me they look stupidly small on his wrist (he's 6'5 and well over 250 lbs) but he thinks its how it should be and anything over 34mm is part of this oversized watch trend that will end as all fads do. So my, and your, preference for 38mm is as much a fad to him and his 60s upbringing as the 40-42mm trend of today is to us.

 

Having not seen the Wright Watches in the flesh I cannot comment on how they wear, but as per the now deleted thread, my bigger concern would be the 12mm thickness for a basic date watch which is extremely thick for a dress watch without a serious number of complications. I understand that the watch has been designed to a price point and miniaturisation costs money and thus to keep the price the thickness has to suffer but it would rule itself out for me on that point alone.

Hello,

All these are valid points and we can't argue with them. The deleted thread will come back. It's not actually deleted, it's invisible due to some matters we need to settle with the forum owners. Other than that we accept all the points you point out but we still believe that the 40mm watch we are offering looks fine and feels fine on the wrist. Not too big not too small. 12mm top to bottom again feels fine and not too big. Although we can keep arguing all day about it, let's agree to disagree! I am not trying to defend my brand or anything, it's just if the watch looked or felt too big we wouldn't have continued further with it. But it doesn't. At least to us. The miniaturisation is not something that we could have done due to the fact Miyota 8215 doesn't allow for anything thinner. Miyota 9015 allows for a 10mm but then again the customer would have to pay an extra 100-150$ on top to use that movement. I hope I was clear enough. Thanks

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