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post #3736 of 4099

If you are really putting it through its paces, wearing it every day, taking it into the ocean and the pool and everywhere you go, probably 3 years, simply to make sure that the gaskets and seals remain fresh and functional (a service on the simple ones can be as cheap as $60, or maybe even less. Or you could do it yourself, they are not complicated movements).

 

Most people, with casual wear, could go 5 years or more easily. Many people buy vintage seikos that have not seen service in well over 10 years and still keep acceptable time and wear them anyway (just dont submerge them at that point as the seals are probably not water tight).

 

It is more fun to bond with a watch than to cycle through them. I have slimmed down my collection to pieces I want to keep for a long time, or hold to sell/trade for something truly special. These are the pieces I would be willing to take apart and service myself. You will shell out a bit for the initial tools and cleaner/lubricants (probably $150 or so), but you can easily service a movement with the wealth of service manuals and step by step picture tutorials out there. Its not rocket science, this technology is well over 60 years old, and you will open up a wealth of vintage restoring and modifying options up to yourself. Many people fund their watch hobby through the simple restorations and repairs they flip for a small profit. It is these people who could service your Seiko for cheap.

 

If you are just now getting into automatic and mechanical watches, congratulations! Its a wonderful and enjoyable world, and truly satisfying to own a well engineered machine that isnt tied to the world of electricity and electronics. It feels good to know I have at least one thing that I know will not crash, freeze, or run out of juice on me. I can set it down and pick it up five years later and it will still work just fine (you should try to run a watch at least once every couple months so the lubricants dont gum up).

 

My recommendation to you would be to explore the WatchUSeek forums and see the multitude of options you have in affordable watches, especially when you factor in customizing. Take the time to identify what you really like and want and save yourself the hassle of impulse buy-and-flip as much as you can (even though you will do it and go through it; we all do)

post #3737 of 4099
Well said.
post #3738 of 4099

Okay took some pictures.

 

I don't need anyone to tell me I have problems. I know I have problems.

 

 

 

 

 

post #3739 of 4099

That is quite a collection!

post #3740 of 4099

Very excited about this vintage find. It is a Rado Balboa V, basically a high end version of their Diastar line. The Balboa was most popular in the Asian market, and featured some fantastic case shapes and dial materials. It is of Tungsten carbide ceramic, notoriously hard and scratchproof but also difficult to work with and impossible to repair once damaged. Over time, its likely that chipped and shattered models were thrown away, unlike other vintage watches which can be polished or even have a new case milled out of steel for. Some of the rarer models featured an Aubergine (copperlike) tungsten case with dials out of very rare and fragile minerals (opal, tiger eye, fossilized ammonite) that were difficult to cut thinly for a watch dial.

 

The case is a champagne color tungsten carbide ceramic. The dial is sandstone which has a beautiful metallic sparkle to it. The crystal is sapphire, but faceted and catches/breaks light in a very interesting way. It came on its original two tone NSA bracelet, but its not to my taste and is way too small for me anyway. It is wonderful so see how this watch is 40 years old and has not a scratch or chip on it. It looks brand new:

 

 

 

 

 

For those curious about the other models, these two threads have a wealth of pics

http://www.equationoftime.com/forums/showthread.php?37819-The-RADO-Balboa-Model-Thread

 

and especially this one:

 

 

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/rado-watches-880506-7.html#post7650647

post #3741 of 4099

I want a submariner style watch next to complete my collection. Does anyone know the difference between SNZF17K1 and SNZF17J1. I kinda want to replace the strap with a nato strap, but not sure what color I want it. Since I was also thinking of getting a tan/khaki military watch I thought a green would be good, or maybe... brown? idk. I don't like the bond straps too much I think.

post #3742 of 4099
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Very excited about this vintage find. It is a Rado Balboa V, basically a high end version of their Diastar line. The Balboa was most popular in the Asian market, and featured some fantastic case shapes and dial materials. It is of Tungsten carbide ceramic, notoriously hard and scratchproof but also difficult to work with and impossible to repair once damaged. Over time, its likely that chipped and shattered models were thrown away, unlike other vintage watches which can be polished or even have a new case milled out of steel for. Some of the rarer models featured an Aubergine (copperlike) tungsten case with dials out of very rare and fragile minerals (opal, tiger eye, fossilized ammonite) that were difficult to cut thinly for a watch dial.

The case is a champagne color tungsten carbide ceramic. The dial is sandstone which has a beautiful metallic sparkle to it. The crystal is sapphire, but faceted and catches/breaks light in a very interesting way. It came on its original two tone NSA bracelet, but its not to my taste and is way too small for me anyway. It is wonderful so see how this watch is 40 years old and has not a scratch or chip on it. It looks brand new:


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For those curious about the other models, these two threads have a wealth of pics
http://www.equationoftime.com/forums/showthread.php?37819-The-RADO-Balboa-Model-Thread

and especially this one:


http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/rado-watches-880506-7.html#post7650647

Very interesting and unique. Rado has always offered quite a range of watches, price-wise, and had some rather intriguing designs. It's one of those brands that never really seems to get talked about much though.
post #3743 of 4099
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Originally Posted by Isolation View Post
 

I want a submariner style watch next to complete my collection. Does anyone know the difference between SNZF17K1 and SNZF17J1. I kinda want to replace the strap with a nato strap, but not sure what color I want it. Since I was also thinking of getting a tan/khaki military watch I thought a green would be good, or maybe... brown? idk. I don't like the bond straps too much I think.

 

Different sources quote J1 as being JDM and K1 as being SGP/MY/KR made etc, or that one is a bracelet model and the other is a strap.

 

Personally I think sub watches are a little lame and dont have much presence/character, especially with a black face and bezel, but the Seiko's are better than most because they arent strict sub homages. If you were to get one, I would recommend the pepsi bezel at least for some pop. Also, be aware those models are 100m "diving style" watches with push down crowns, which arent the most secure against water/dust. For most people this wouldnt be an issue, but if you plan on putting it through its paces, consider the SKX, a true diving watch with a screw crown (at 4/5 o clock, more comfortable) and higher WR. There are several models in the series. As a bonus, there is a huge aftermarket of parts for the SKX series (the SNZF uses a very similar movement, so parts may fit for that too), so you can customize it into being one of a kind to your hearts content, as I did mine:

 

 

 

Seems like you have a lot of black faced watches as it is, I would branch out more. If you want a good khaki or olive faced watch, check out the Orient defender:

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Michigan Planner View Post


Very interesting and unique. Rado has always offered quite a range of watches, price-wise, and had some rather intriguing designs. It's one of those brands that never really seems to get talked about much though.

 

They are truly beautiful watches and are heads and shoulders above Movado in terms of style and innovation. The problem with Rado is that most of the cost (which isnt skyhigh but not cheap) is reflected in the materials, and as a result the movements they use are rather pedestrian (by that I mean higher grade ETA 2824's and the like). Personally I dont find an issue with it as these movements have proven their suitability and have the benefit of cheap servicing, and I would much rather take a stronger case of premium material, but the WIS world is very frequently a circlejerk over inhouse movements and ETA reverse snobbery and such.


Edited by DerangedGoose - 6/12/14 at 2:03pm
post #3744 of 4099

Thanks for your comment. Yeah it just seems like it's such a classic look I might want to get one and use as a casual watch with a nato strap. I thought it'd be different enough I won't mind having it in my collection since my black face watches look quite different. I was also thinking of getting something like this: http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-automatic-sports-89/seiko-5-military-automatic-mechanical-self-winding-nylon-strap-mens-watch-snk803k2-snk803-1896.html and a skeleton to get more variety too.

 

Is being made in Japan a significant difference at all? It's like 10 pounds difference anyway, so I'm just curious.

post #3745 of 4099
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Originally Posted by Isolation View Post
 

Thanks for your comment. Yeah it just seems like it's such a classic look I might want to get one and use as a casual watch with a nato strap. I thought it'd be different enough I won't mind having it in my collection since my black face watches look quite different. I was also thinking of getting something like this: http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-automatic-sports-89/seiko-5-military-automatic-mechanical-self-winding-nylon-strap-mens-watch-snk803k2-snk803-1896.html and a skeleton to get more variety too.

 

Is being made in Japan a significant difference at all? It's like 10 pounds difference anyway, so I'm just curious.

 

Seiko is high quality across the board, I dont think JDM makes a huge difference. 

 

The Khaki seiko 5 is a very popular model, but a lot of people end up selling it because it is a bit too small for their tastes. My personal preference is about 40mm, but I will go as low as 38 for vintage and such. It also depends on the case and dial ratio to determine how a given watch "wears", but that Seiko 5 is 37mm. Depending on your wrist size and preferences, it may be too small.

 

In general I avoid watches with day/date because it is a useless feature, clutters up the dial, and since I have a rotation of watches the date always ends up being off if I forget to wind something. Even when faced with the choice of just date or no date, Ill usually choose no date. Date at 6 o clock is ok since it is more symmetrical, but Im not a big fan of date at 3

post #3746 of 4099
Dilemma: Beach season is approaching and after getting my Speedmaster Sapphire Sandwich tested today at my local watchmaker, I was advised not to bring it anywhere near a beach.

Opportunity: Looks like I'm in need of a knock-around watch for the beach, active sports and rugged adventure travel (spending a month in S.E. Asia this October).

Anyone want to recommend something sub-$1,000 that fits the bill? I was told GShock (ooh, a compass!) would work, but the darn things look like transformers. And then there's Luminox, but they have that whole Navy Seal fetish thing going on. I'm liking the idea of solar powered with a screw-down crown.

Thoughts?
post #3747 of 4099
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

Dilemma: Beach season is approaching and after getting my Speedmaster Sapphire Sandwich tested today at my local watchmaker, I was advised not to bring it anywhere near a beach.

Opportunity: Looks like I'm in need of a knock-around watch for the beach, active sports and rugged adventure travel (spending a month in S.E. Asia this October).

Anyone want to recommend something sub-$1,000 that fits the bill? I was told GShock (ooh, a compass!) would work, but the darn things look like transformers. And then there's Luminox, but they have that whole Navy Seal fetish thing going on. I'm liking the idea of solar powered with a screw-down crown.

Thoughts?

 

Luminox sucks, its a fashion brand. Get an Eco drive promaster diver. Many of them come in titanium (my personal preference) and have screw down crowns. You cant beat them. This is one I used to have, it was a JDM model only and has been long since discontinued, but the hardened scratchproof titanium was beautiful and ratcheting divers extension clasp allowed custom comfort:

 

 

 

There are dozens of models available in all kinds of price ranges, with more advanced models featuring depth meters, altitude meters, compass, atomic clock synch and other functions, most of them nowhere near 1000 dollars. For that much you might as well get a mechanical watch. For a beater knockaround, I highly recommend a titanium promaster. If you want a mechanical titanium divers watch, you cant beat the SBDC007 Seiko Shogun. Also in hardened titanium, it is very light and comfortable and runs for about 850 used to around 1000 new:

 

post #3748 of 4099
Thoughts on MWC watches? Anyone here own one?
post #3749 of 4099
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post

Thoughts on MWC watches? Anyone here own one?

 

Dishonest and misleading advertising that suggested they were an official British MOD supplier when in reality only CWC could reliably make that claim. Look up discussion topics on the two brands and you will see that CWC consistently produces higher quality watches with metal retaining rings (MWC uses plastic) and better movements.

 

They are pretty much "military style" watches. I certainly would not pay their overly enthusiastic prices, but the autos at least seem like a better deal for getting an auto diver with tritium and a ceramic bezel (even though its just a sub clone and you could buy an identical sub clone, without the tritium for a third or less of the cost). I think they use T25 tritium which is weaker than T100, but its only supposed to be enough to read in pitch blackness.

 

Overall I would say there are other way more interesting watches out there for that kind of money

post #3750 of 4099
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Dishonest and misleading advertising that suggested they were an official British MOD supplier when in reality only CWC could reliably make that claim. Look up discussion topics on the two brands and you will see that CWC consistently produces higher quality watches with metal retaining rings (MWC uses plastic) and better movements.

They are pretty much "military style" watches. I certainly would not pay their overly enthusiastic prices, but the autos at least seem like a better deal for getting an auto diver with tritium and a ceramic bezel (even though its just a sub clone and you could buy an identical sub clone, without the tritium for a third or less of the cost). I think they use T25 tritium which is weaker than T100, but its only supposed to be enough to read in pitch blackness.

Overall I would say there are other way more interesting watches out there for that kind of money

I paid $85 for my quartz version off Ebay. My British Aunt is certain she can buy other MWC watches in the UK for $40.
Good deal at those prices?
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