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post #3391 of 5149
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

Wong wasn't that far off the bag. What did happen is that he made a little hop trying to get back to first - and his feet slid out a little under him.

there was one of those sport science videos that shows in pressure playoffs situations your muscles tense up 13% more than usual, this might have happened to wong and resulted in the slip.

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

he should have been on the bag, or close enough that he could just step back. that was his mistake. and to his chagrin, uehara's throw was just perfectly timed.

Yes, there's what Doc Larry says. But there's also brain cramping due to the pressure. He shouldn't have even put himself in a situation where a small slip causes him to be picked off. They're down by two in the ninth, and he's the first run. The marginal benefit of that extra step or two in his lead is pretty close to zero.

To be fair, though, that's one the first base coach as well as Wong.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Bob Loblaw.


We're more in agreement than not, just a difference on outlook of stuff. I just wish people wouldn't think "clutch" refers to a few spots in late innings.
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

I hate when analysts point to AVG w/ RISP as an indication of "clutch" hitting. It stands to reason that if a pitcher has let runners into scoring position then averages will be higher.


Yup. RISP/avg and RBIs would be about the only things that you might be able to use as quantifiers but there are lurking variables which screw that whole thing up.
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To be fair, though, that's one the first base coach as well as Wong.

The runner was more wong than the coach in this instance.
post #3393 of 5149

What about the spike in testosterone when playing at home?

post #3394 of 5149
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post


The runner was more wong than the coach in this instance.

Not sure I agree. I mean, yeah, ultimately the players have to get it done. But you have a pinch-runner who just came into the game. He's a young guy in the highest-pressure situation he's ever played in. He's worried about all the physical aspects as well. The coach has one primary job: understand the situation and coach the runner. If the runner is too far off the bag (and I acknowledge that too a certain extent only the player can judge that, since he's the one who as to react) in that situation, the coach should be telling him to get his ass back to the bag.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Not sure I agree. I mean, yeah, ultimately the players have to get it done. But you have a pinch-runner who just came into the game. He's a young guy in the highest-pressure situation he's ever played in. He's worried about all the physical aspects as well. The coach has one primary job: understand the situation and coach the runner. If the runner is too far off the bag (and I acknowledge that too a certain extent only the player can judge that, since he's the one who as to react) in that situation, the coach should be telling him to get his ass back to the bag.

More wong... Like more wrong but because his last name is "Wong". Come on dude, my joke wasn't that bad...
post #3396 of 5149
what a nice picture of two all-time greats only to be ruined by the jackass on the left

post #3397 of 5149
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

More wong... Like more wrong but because his last name is "Wong". Come on dude, my joke wasn't that bad...
You're right, it wasn't. I just missed it. shog[1].gif
post #3398 of 5149

Miggy's overcoat appeared to fit excellently. I wonder who is tailor is!

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How is the award for top hitter determined by...voting?! confused.gif
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

How is the award for top hitter determined by...voting?! confused.gif

 

It is silly but he did lead the league in OPS, wRC+, SLG, AVG, wOBA, wRAA, etc. He clearly was the best hitter this year.

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Yes, no question that he is. But it seems to me that a sport with all these fancy metrics could come up with an objective way to crown a top hitter. This is like awarding the NBA scoring title by fan vote.
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Yeah, it's really the Gold Gloves that are a crock of shit. Derek Jeter's GGs are a goddamn travesty. He posted a negative UZR 4 years he won it and was third in 2009, which is also his ONLY season with a positive UZR. 

 

I love Derek Jeter but c'mon, man!

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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

Yeah, it's really the Gold Gloves that are a crock of shit. Derek Jeter's GGs are a goddamn travesty. He posted a negative UZR 4 years he won it and was third in 2009, which is also his ONLY season with a positive UZR. 

I love Derek Jeter but c'mon, man!

I think I already posted this but the way you win a Gold Glove award is to hit well and have won one in the past.
post #3404 of 5149
Hmm...I can see that our light hitting Yankees captain is also a 2-time Aaron award winner. This seems to indicate that this award is just another popularity contest unless he's truly the objective highest scorer by averaging this alphabet soup of hitting metrics
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Hmm...I can see that our light hitting Yankees captain is also a 2-time Aaron award winner. This seems to indicate that this award is just another popularity contest unless he's truly the objective highest scorer by averaging this alphabet soup of hitting metrics

 

Quite literally a popularity contest.

 

The 2004–2006 Hank Aaron Award was decided in three separate phases. In August fans voted at each Club's official Web site from among three players nominated by the respective Club. The leading vote getter from each Club became one of 30 finalists, from which a special Major League Baseball panel chose six finalists from each League. Online fan voting then determined the overall League winner.

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