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post #3271 of 5149
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

You know, I really hate that play. Especially by a catcher who spent most of the season on the DL with concussion symptoms. It is just really stupid and I wish I had the data to prove that the catcher rarely drops the ball. They should make some kind of rule preventing it like mandating a slide into home or maybe some kind of infield fly type rule where you are automatically out if the ball gets in before you get to the batters' box.

^also no helmets!
post #3272 of 5149
I'm with Ethan on this - that's a dumb play and results in really unnecessary injuries. If the C has the ball, any attempts to bowl him over should result in an automatic out, and probably suspension. If the catcher tries to block the plate without the ball it should be interference and the runner should be declared safe. I think that's the rule anyway, but it's just not enforced due to precedent and tradition. The new research on concussions make this a no-brainer (no pun intended), but even the knee injuries to Buster Posey and Carlos Santana shouldn't have ever happened. It's totally incongruous with the nature of baseball to have these full-on football collisions at home plate.
post #3273 of 5149
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Originally Posted by Baron View Post

I'm with Ethan on this - that's a dumb play and results in really unnecessary injuries. If the C has the ball, any attempts to bowl him over should result in an automatic out, and probably suspension. If the catcher tries to block the plate without the ball it should be interference and the runner should be declared safe. I think that's the rule anyway, but it's just not enforced due to precedent and tradition. The new research on concussions make this a no-brainer (no pun intended), but even the knee injuries to Buster Posey and Carlos Santana shouldn't have ever happened. It's totally incongruous with the nature of baseball to have these full-on football collisions at home plate.

 

My name isn't Ethan but thanks for the support! It really just blows my mind that Ross would try that after the troubles he has had this season. Perhaps his judgment isn't fully restored yet.

post #3274 of 5149
I don't know why I read your user name as EthanNJ, some kind of optical illusion I suppose.
post #3275 of 5149
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

My name isn't Ethan but thanks for the support! It really just blows my mind that Ross would try that after the troubles he has had this season. Perhaps his judgment isn't fully restored yet.

I don't know... when i see ross'/avilla/yadiers faces and demeanors... it seems obvious that they'd do exactly what happened. lol.
post #3276 of 5149
i would imagine that if catchers had the same value to the MLB that QBs have to the NFL, they would disallow any crashing the catcher at the plate. as is, they are not.

MLB is notoriously attached to/steeped in, its "heritage"/"history"/"tradition" and often times to its own detriment. and i cant imagine the play at the plate not falling into that description. its beloved by many, its very exciting to watch, its not a play that happens terribly often, so when it does it gets the fans pumped. its "part of the game." and just wait for some stat head to be all like "how will we keep records of catchers before and after the play at plate? do we need an asterisk?"

i personally like the play at the plate, but i understand the danger involved, and could understand the reason behind doing away with it. but considering MLBs overarching value set and the value placed on catchers, i find it highly unlikely.


as an aside, ive been a very casual baseball fan the past number of years, and really tune in only during playoff time. so im really not familiar with all the players like i used to be, as a kid. i had no idea who the this napoli dude is, but man he is awesome. is he always this good, or was last night an above average game for him? obviously the beard gives him extra stitch point.
post #3277 of 5149
Great - another baseball "tradition" to keep track of. So I can't admire my hit, celebrate while baserunning, but I can hurl a missile at someone's head at 90 mph and light up a catcher like a free safety. Got it.
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

My name isn't Ethan but thanks for the support! It really just blows my mind that Ross would try that after the troubles he has had this season. Perhaps his judgment isn't fully restored yet.
Will now call you Ethan from now on
post #3278 of 5149

I would argue that it is not exciting because the probability of the catcher dropping the ball is very low.

 

Napoli is not a great player but he is a good player and he will hit home runs. In fact, nobody on the Red Sox has been a great player this season.

post #3279 of 5149
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Great - another baseball "tradition" to keep track of. So I can't admire my hit, celebrate while baserunning, but I can hurl a missile at someone's head at 90 mph and light up a catcher like a free safety. Got it.

that sounds about right. you also cant have instant replay the way you want it, either.

im not saying i agree with all these various "traditions," just that MLB puts a huge value on these things. its not until something horrible results or there could be huge monetary consequences that they seem to change things. asfaik and iirc, anyways.
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

I would argue that it is not exciting because the probability of the catcher dropping the ball is very low.
Napoli is not a great player but he is a good player and he will hit home runs.

i would argue that low probability of dropping the ball does not make it a less exciting play.

thanks for the info.
post #3280 of 5149

What the fuck just happened. I have never seen that before, is it a college thing?

post #3281 of 5149
Sugar Shane Robinson owns Dodger pitching and this is a fact.
post #3282 of 5149
Wow.
post #3283 of 5149
Uh-oh, the opportunity squandered by Sugar Shane's hitting into the double play might spell trouble for the Cards tonight.
post #3284 of 5149
Even if you're taking your pitcher out of the game, you might as well let him hit if the only alternative is having Kolten Wong pinch hit. (Sorry to be negative just getting nervous about the outcome of the game.)
post #3285 of 5149
What a great win for the Cards!
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