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2016 MLB Season Thread - Page 196

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Life bans and all titles stripped dating years back from positive tests.

I can see why they wouldn't do that though. They're in a difficult position.

Because you can't punish someone for something that wasn't against the rules at the time the act was committed?
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This isn't really a meaningful comparison. I mean, compared to most jockeys I'm a giant.

Compared to everyone else, my dick is fucking huge.
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This is a very astute observation.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/danoshinsky/things-that-have-happened-since-the-braves-installed-that
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This isn't really a meaningful comparison. I mean, compared to most jockeys I'm a giant.

Yes, it is. The perceived threshold for how big one can get naturally is inexplicably lower for baseball players.
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Yes, it is. The perceived threshold for how big one can get naturally is inexplicably lower for baseball players.

Not really.
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Yes, it is. The perceived threshold for how big one can get naturally is inexplicably lower for baseball players.

People select into specific sports based upon physical attributes. Football players are going to have a higher size ceiling, at least at certain positions, because being ginormous is prerequisite for playing the position in the first place.
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That does not explain it. People are just more willing to accept/ignore that most guys in the NFL are probably juicing.
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Yes, that must be it. Never mind that there's not a lot of benefit to being 6'3" and 350 in baseball while it's critical for certain positions in football, and who cares that the skill sets and physical attributes are, in most cases, fundamentally different in the two sports. It's really that football is, apparently, the only major sport where the fans have simply decided they don't care about cheating.
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You're deluded if you think this is natural. He's 6' by the way.

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Who said it was natural? My point is that I don't agree that baseball and football players have the same capacity for size gains, given the sports they play require different physical attributes. Natural or not, football players are, on the average, going to have the ability to get bigger than baseball players. Even if every single player in both sports started a PED regimen, the football players will be the bigger bunch because of the nature of their sport.
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There are a lot of baseball players with frames just as big as football players.
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And there are a lot of quarterbacks who are smaller than the average third baseman. We're talking about tendencies here, not individuals or outliers.

Anyhow, continue to believe whatever you want. I'm not going to go in circles arguing about exceptions to rules and rigorous quantitative measures like "a lot."
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Tigers win in 14 innings and nearly 5 hours. The Indians were a threat to the bitter end. Bonderman was fantastic. Leyland in the postgame interview: "This was a dandy."

That was a great one. In honor of the game I made sure to run past both Cabrera and Dombrowski's houses on my run today (I need to find where Fielder lives...).

It was definitely nice to see Bonderman 1.0 as opposed to 2.0.
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That does not explain it. People are just more willing to accept/ignore that most guys in the NFL are probably juicing.
No, this is so wrong as to be silly. The mix of advantageous attributes is different for different sports, and the point of diminishing (or even negative) returns from sheer bulk is at a very different point for baseball players than for, say, guards or nose tackles.
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No, this is so wrong as to be silly. The mix of advantageous attributes is different for different sports, and the point of diminishing (or even negative) returns from sheer bulk is at a very different point for baseball players than for, say, guards or nose tackles.

You are not understanding what I'm saying. When I say big I mean muscle mass. I'm talking about linebackers and running backs and others whose muscle mass is beyond what can be attained naturally. See Michael Pittman above. You don't get arms like that with hard work and calories alone. But football fans ignore this.

Whereas in baseball people look at McGwire and Bonds and Sosa and Giambi and say they are too big to be real.
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

You are not understanding what I'm saying. When I say big I mean muscle mass. I'm talking about linebackers and running backs and others whose muscle mass is beyond what can be attained naturally. See Michael Pittman above. You don't get arms like that with hard work and calories alone.

You may be right - and if I'm misreading you, my apologies. I agree that there are football players who seem to be obvious juicers. Where I disagree is the point that the differences in public acceptance of juicing among different sports are nearly as great as I understand you to be suggesting.
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