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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

The strikeouts for the Braves won't matter this season. I tend to think that big picture strikeouts aren't as big a deal as people say (an out is an out) and that we attach more weight to them because they show the futility of an at bat but its an argument I'm less wedded to. As opposed to say, the absurd notion that a set closer is a truly important player.

i agree with that, but it'll be frustrating if they fail to make "productive" outs. for example, moving a man from 2nd to 3rd by grounding out to the right side of the infield. also you put more pressure on the defense by putting the ball in play. they'll probably also go into a lot of deep counts so that's good. and hit a ton of homers.

side note: for anyone considering mlb.tv, i highly recommend it (if you are out of market of course, the blackout rules blow). i am a native georgian living in seattle and am a huge braves fan (i also follow the mariners but not nearly as closely). mlb.tv works almost perfectly for me.
post #2492 of 4233
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Originally Posted by violethour1951 View Post

Cain looking good today. Got a feeling Lincecum is going to suck again this season...

I'll take 1-0 0.00 and 2.00 WHIP. Reminds me of Max a couple years back.

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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

This really bothered me but the AP had a preview of the season but they had a graph titled like VORP vs RBI or something and they were like "the debate between sabermatricians and traditionalists continues to get louder. More listening less talking and there would be realization there is plenty of ground in the middle." The problem is that there really isn't that much ground in the middle. There is a continuing and growing realization that the old narrative-driven statistics don't tell much at all. And when (no offense) you have people like Steve B. spouting off incorrect analyses of the stats it makes things even more difficult.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that sabermetrics realizes the inherent difficulty in quantifying player performance and what it is trying to do is isolate certain factors and get as precise as possible with its measurements.

ANd thankfully, the last propagators of poor analysis are old media types and literally dying. Well, there are them and lazy beat writers. But fuck, whatever.

Explanation:

I did SO BAD in Fantasy last year that I bought Baseball Digest because of Nate Silver. Guess I still haven't wrapped my fragile egg shell mind around it.
post #2493 of 4233
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Originally Posted by violethour1951 View Post

Cain looking good today. Got a feeling Lincecum is going to suck again this season...

I'll take 1-0 0.00 and 2.00 WHIP. Reminds me of Max a couple years back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

This really bothered me but the AP had a preview of the season but they had a graph titled like VORP vs RBI or something and they were like "the debate between sabermatricians and traditionalists continues to get louder. More listening less talking and there would be realization there is plenty of ground in the middle." The problem is that there really isn't that much ground in the middle. There is a continuing and growing realization that the old narrative-driven statistics don't tell much at all. And when (no offense) you have people like Steve B. spouting off incorrect analyses of the stats it makes things even more difficult.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that sabermetrics realizes the inherent difficulty in quantifying player performance and what it is trying to do is isolate certain factors and get as precise as possible with its measurements.

ANd thankfully, the last propagators of poor analysis are old media types and literally dying. Well, there are them and lazy beat writers. But fuck, whatever.

Explanation:

I did SO BAD in Fantasy last year that I bought Baseball Digest because of Nate Silver. Guess I still haven't wrapped my fragile egg shell mind around it.
post #2494 of 4233
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Originally Posted by violethour1951 View Post

Cain looking good today. Got a feeling Lincecum is going to suck again this season...

I'll take 1-0 0.00 and 2.00 WHIP. Reminds me of Max a couple years back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

This really bothered me but the AP had a preview of the season but they had a graph titled like VORP vs RBI or something and they were like "the debate between sabermatricians and traditionalists continues to get louder. More listening less talking and there would be realization there is plenty of ground in the middle." The problem is that there really isn't that much ground in the middle. There is a continuing and growing realization that the old narrative-driven statistics don't tell much at all. And when (no offense) you have people like Steve B. spouting off incorrect analyses of the stats it makes things even more difficult.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that sabermetrics realizes the inherent difficulty in quantifying player performance and what it is trying to do is isolate certain factors and get as precise as possible with its measurements.

ANd thankfully, the last propagators of poor analysis are old media types and literally dying. Well, there are them and lazy beat writers. But fuck, whatever.

Explanation:

I did SO BAD in Fantasy last year that I bought Baseball Digest because of Nate Silver. Guess I still haven't wrapped my fragile egg shell mind around it.
post #2495 of 4233
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Originally Posted by violethour1951 View Post

Cain looking good today. Got a feeling Lincecum is going to suck again this season...

I'll take 1-0 0.00 and 2.00 WHIP. Reminds me of Max a couple years back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

This really bothered me but the AP had a preview of the season but they had a graph titled like VORP vs RBI or something and they were like "the debate between sabermatricians and traditionalists continues to get louder. More listening less talking and there would be realization there is plenty of ground in the middle." The problem is that there really isn't that much ground in the middle. There is a continuing and growing realization that the old narrative-driven statistics don't tell much at all. And when (no offense) you have people like Steve B. spouting off incorrect analyses of the stats it makes things even more difficult.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that sabermetrics realizes the inherent difficulty in quantifying player performance and what it is trying to do is isolate certain factors and get as precise as possible with its measurements.

ANd thankfully, the last propagators of poor analysis are old media types and literally dying. Well, there are them and lazy beat writers. But fuck, whatever.

Explanation:

I did SO BAD in Fantasy last year that I bought Baseball Digest because of Nate Silver. Guess I still haven't wrapped my fragile egg shell mind around it.
post #2496 of 4233
Watching the Braves, that outfield is so young and so special, Reminds me of that great Valentine-Dawson-Chromartie outfield of the Expos back in the day.
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Thread Starter 
Steve B. you really don't see any flaws in your "reasoning" do you?
post #2498 of 4233
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

Steve B. you really don't see any flaws in your "reasoning" do you?

Enlighten me. The season is only 2 weeks old and it might help.
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Heading to my first game of the year tonight. Phils looking really shitty so far. But....DOLLAR DOG NIGHT!!! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

Not gonna give up on the season seven games in, but it's tough for me to see how this ends well. Hoping for Ryne Sandberg to be promoted to manager next year (and for a new GM, while I'm asking).
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Comerica Park now has bacon on a stick!!!!
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BRB booking flight to Detroit
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Originally Posted by bdeuce22 View Post

Comerica Park now has bacon on a stick!!!!
pics or it didn't happen!
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Not mine but from Reddit. $5 seems worth it.

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That must have been one big pig.
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