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2012 College Football Thread - Page 76

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    L
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    O
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    R
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    I
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    D
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    A!
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    E!
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    FLORIDA STATE!
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    FLORIDA STATE!
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    FLORIDA STATE!
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    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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    LET'S
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    GO
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    PANTHERS!
45 Total Votes  
post #1126 of 1322
I want to root for the conference but the thought of rooting for furd makes me kind of sick.
post #1127 of 1322
Hahhaha
post #1128 of 1322
Today was not a good day for placekickers facepalm.gif
post #1129 of 1322
Shades of Boise State?
post #1130 of 1322
In college you never put the game on a kicker's foot.
post #1131 of 1322
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Originally Posted by Texasmade View Post

In college you never put the game on a kicker's foot.

Explain this...

Would you have gone for six in this situation, or in OT if you were UGA?

Do you think teams intentionally shave points so they can win by 3 in the last second?

I think, ideally, you never put the game on a single play or player... but when it happens, you need kickers who don't kick wide or get blocked.
post #1132 of 1322
BALL WHY YOU NO GO IN? I HAVE WORK TOMROROW! :'(
post #1133 of 1322
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Originally Posted by ConcernedParent View Post

Shades of Boise State?

Now eerily Boise State.
post #1134 of 1322
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

Explain this...
Would you have gone for six in this situation, or in OT if you were UGA?
Do you think teams intentionally shave points so they can win by 3 in the last second?
I think, ideally, you never put the game on a single play or player... but when it happens, you need kickers who don't kick wide or get blocked.

In college, most of the time your kicker is a walk-on who isn't used to handling the pressure of a GW kick. It's different in the NFL, where the kicker is a paid professional and is used to pressure kicks. In situations like these, I always thought it was dumb for coaches to just settle for 30-40yd FG kicks which aren't gimmie's in college unlike the NFL. I would be going all out for a TD or to get the kick under a 25yds.

In the UGA situation, they had no choice but Stanford could've ran another play to get it a little bit closer.
post #1135 of 1322
I don't think UGA called good playsin OT, it really felt like they were playing for the FG. And it bit them. Getting an INT in OT and then missing the field goal, what a terrible way to lose (well, to not win and then lose down the stretch).


Same for Stanford, they had a solid minute left and Luck was marching down the field. Why settle for the 35+yard field goal with the freshman kicker? Trust Luck not to throw an INT, run a couple more plays, either get the touchdown or make it a chip shot.
post #1136 of 1322
Luck and Blackmon looked great last night. Anyone who selects RG3 ahead of Luck is guilty of draft malpractice.
post #1137 of 1322
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Luck and Blackmon looked great last night. Anyone who selects RG3 ahead of Luck is guilty of draft malpractice.

I think anyone who takes a Superstar QB early in the draft is guilty of malpractice. Unless you are in the 49ers (Montana/Young) or Packers (Favre/Rogers) situation, QBs are too big a risk. If you need a QB to play in the next two years, you should draft other positions and trade for a proven vet QB. For every Manning, Brees out there, there are a ton of Tim Couch / Brady Quinns and there are also a ton of Tom Bradys (low draft pick, high NFL performer).
post #1138 of 1322
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

I think anyone who takes a Superstar QB early in the draft is guilty of malpractice. Unless you are in the 49ers (Montana/Young) or Packers (Favre/Rogers) situation, QBs are too big a risk. If you need a QB to play in the next two years, you should draft other positions and trade for a proven vet QB. For every Manning, Brees out there, there are a ton of Tim Couch / Brady Quinns and there are also a ton of Tom Bradys (low draft pick, high NFL performer).

But you can make this claim about any position. LT is probably the easiest position to project from college to the pros, but you still get the occasional Tony Mandarich or Robert Gallery.
post #1139 of 1322
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

I think anyone who takes a Superstar QB early in the draft is guilty of malpractice. Unless you are in the 49ers (Montana/Young) or Packers (Favre/Rogers) situation, QBs are too big a risk. If you need a QB to play in the next two years, you should draft other positions and trade for a proven vet QB. For every Manning, Brees out there, there are a ton of Tim Couch / Brady Quinns and there are also a ton of Tom Bradys (low draft pick, high NFL performer).

Really? Especially with a pro-ready QB like Luck, why wouldn't you pick the most touted prospect for the most important position on your team? It's a bigger gamble, but there is a much bigger payoff if you pick correctly.
post #1140 of 1322
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

I think anyone who takes a Superstar QB early in the draft is guilty of malpractice. Unless you are in the 49ers (Montana/Young) or Packers (Favre/Rogers) situation, QBs are too big a risk. If you need a QB to play in the next two years, you should draft other positions and trade for a proven vet QB. For every Manning, Brees out there, there are a ton of Tim Couch / Brady Quinns and there are also a ton of Tom Bradys (low draft pick, high NFL performer).

Just how many of those Tom Bradys are out there?

Of good NFL QBs (in no particular order)

Tom Brady #199
Peyton Manning #1 pick
Eli Manning #1 pick
Matt Ryan #3 pick
Ben Roethlisberger #11 pick
Tony Romo undrafted
Aaron Rodgers #24
Matt Stafford #1 pick
Phillip Rivers #4 pick
Cam Newton #1 pick
Sam Bradford #1 pick


I'm sure I missed some, but pretty high fraction of first round (and especially #1) picks up in there. Lots of first round draft QBs fail horribly, but if you really want to get your franchise QBs, you're more likely to find them in the first round than anywhere else. Franchises don't want to look stupid for taking a failure, but the rewards are big.
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