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post #8446 of 11190
I understand their position and I suppose it makes sense for them, they consider market share more valuable than near term profit. However I think what really happens is that the small producers are gobbled up by the large ones then when they back off of their policy they will be right back where they started in terms of market share.

The real losers are likely to be the small members of opec, IMO.
post #8447 of 11190
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I bought some more SMLP. Sure, it should fall more, but at this point, the yield is crazy tempting.

Oops.
post #8448 of 11190
Man I'm glad my work made me sell KMI and a few other E&P MLP stocks back in January. I've spent the past 2 years trying to diversify away from oil so at least my portfolio and my job won't both tank at the same time.
post #8449 of 11190
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

I understand their position and I suppose it makes sense for them, they consider market share more valuable than near term profit. However I think what really happens is that the small producers are gobbled up by the large ones then when they back off of their policy they will be right back where they started in terms of market share.

The real losers are likely to be the small members of opec, IMO.

Not opinion, fact.
post #8450 of 11190
wow, oil... damn.

I've been buying up more CNX, CPG, and CHK just to try and lower my average costs.

Just reopened a position on RDS (.B) and briefly held GLF but sold it and made a few percent today.
post #8451 of 11190
That SUNE squeeze
post #8452 of 11190
as in SUNE they'll go bankrupt?
post #8453 of 11190
The Dow DuPont merger! I never would've guessed these 2 would merge.
post #8454 of 11190
Red Frog is red frown.gif
post #8455 of 11190
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The Dow DuPont merger! I never would've guessed these 2 would merge.

would the monopoly board let such a thing happen ??
post #8456 of 11190
it's touted also a merger of equals, so shareholders of both will not be obliged to pay a premium ... consolidating assets and liabilities to control the market, collusion to create a cartel ??
and won't they deal with eventual environmental/safety law suites coming in the future
post #8457 of 11190
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it's touted also a merger of equals, so shareholders of both will not be obliged to pay a premium ... consolidating assets and liabilities to control the market, collusion to create a cartel ??
and won't they deal with eventual environmental/safety law suites coming in the future

It seems like the plan is break up the combined company at some point in the future. ​

post #8458 of 11190
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it's touted also a merger of equals, so shareholders of both will not be obliged to pay a premium ... consolidating assets and liabilities to control the market, collusion to create a cartel ??
and won't they deal with eventual environmental/safety law suites coming in the future

I'm not sure what you're really asking with respect to environmental/safety lawsuits. I'm sure both companies face such suits on a regular basis, given the nature of their operations. Those are potential liabilities that come with the territory and presumably show up on their books as liabilities, reserves, etc. (I'm not an accounting guy, so I'm using those terms loosely.) But I'm not sure how the proposed merger really effects this one way or the other. Does the eventual combined company now have twice as much litigation exposure (assuming for ease of discussion that each of the pre-merger companies has an equal amount)? Sure, but (similar assumptions for illustrative purposes) that's balanced against twice the assets as well.
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It seems like the plan is break up the combined company at some point in the future. ​

Plan is to merge and then breakup into 3 separate companies. I haven't read how the division would take place yet.
post #8460 of 11190
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as in SUNE they'll go bankrupt?

Short squeeze. SCTY traded up by corr algos
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