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post #8326 of 11418
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If I had a nickel for everyone time I've heard that . . ..
And you're a lawyer, not a proctologist, right?
post #8327 of 11418
Wowza, 271k jobs vs 140k expected.

December rate hike here we cum!
post #8328 of 11418
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Wowza, 271k jobs vs 140k expected.

December rate hike here we cum!

Potentially the reason for the negative market reaction today.

 

I have moved virtually all of my volatility investments from short term to mid term. 

 

Also if anyone is in for a laugh: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/science/exxon-mobil-under-investigation-in-new-york-over-climate-statements.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

 

Same NYAG investigating VRX. At the end of the day this stuff drives me crazy, because my tax dollars go to pay for this. In Long Island I saw the local AG go after businesses she didn't like. When she was sued and lost the taxpayers were also on the hook for the settlement.

post #8329 of 11418
Facebook is not worth $33,000,000,000

Kind of funny to read now 5 years later when facebook is worth 10x that.
post #8330 of 11418
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Facebook is not worth $33,000,000,000

Kind of funny to read now 5 years later when facebook is worth 10x that.

 

Well, the guy did create Ruby on Rails, so I'm sure he's an expert on valuations.  People don't get that start-ups and early stage companies are always valued extremely high because it is all based on growth potential.  If we based our valuations on current sales, we'd never see a new company again.

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And you're a lawyer, not a proctologist, right?

Call me versatile.
post #8332 of 11418
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Facebook is not worth $33,000,000,000

Kind of funny to read now 5 years later when facebook is worth 10x that.

When facts change, opinion should change accordingly.

FB did almost went kaboom right after its IPO as it was in the midst or was struggling to transition it's platform to mobile.

TSLA had the same struggle right after its IPO, and then couple years out it was almost out of cash and almost had to strike a deal with GOOG, before it made through the tough times.

Not all companies made through these type of transitions.

TWTR for one is still in the midst of the transition.
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When facts change, opinion should change accordingly.

FB did almost went kaboom right after its IPO as it was in the midst or was struggling to transition it's platform to mobile.

TSLA had the same struggle right after its IPO, and then couple years out it was almost out of cash and almost had to strike a deal with GOOG, before it made through the tough times.

Not all companies made through these type of transitions.

TWTR for one is still in the midst of the transition.

 

Well, that's why FB was valued so low then because there was a lot of risk.  Obviously anyone who didn't think FB was going to make it would think $10B is overpriced, but anyone who thought it would make it would look at $10B as a good deal.

 

I actually still struggle to see how FB really continues to grow except through acquisition because I just don't see why advertisers continue to use such an ineffective platform.

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Well, that's why FB was valued so low then because there was a lot of risk.  Obviously anyone who didn't think FB was going to make it would think $10B is overpriced, but anyone who thought it would make it would look at $10B as a good deal.

I actually still struggle to see how FB really continues to grow except through acquisition because I just don't see why advertisers continue to use such an ineffective platform.

Buy-side spend according to their ad budget. Platforms stuff shit down the channel and sometimes have robo clicks to boost impressions. Sell-side always taint how good their platform is.

When your boss breath down your neck asking for social media ad buying, you buy. Especially if you are one of those micro transaction or subscription companies.

Facebook is just trying to increase usage so they could have more impressions to sell.

IMO sponsored posts on forums, social media spam networks like buzzfeed, or blogging sites drives conversion better than impressions.
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Buy-side spend according to their ad budget. Platforms stuff shit down the channel and sometimes have robo clicks to boost impressions. Sell-side always taint how good their platform is.

When your boss breath down your neck asking for social media ad buying, you buy. Especially if you are one of those micro transaction or subscription companies.

Facebook is just trying to increase usage so they could have more impressions to sell.

IMO sponsored posts on forums, social media spam networks like buzzfeed, or blogging sites drives conversion better than impressions.

 

I absolutely agree. I seem to remember that brands can start pages on Facebook for free, which yield greater conversation rates than ads.  I don't know - I haven't paid any attention to an add on FB in years.

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I absolutely agree. I seem to remember that brands can start pages on Facebook for free, which yield greater conversation rates than ads.  I don't know - I haven't paid any attention to an add on FB in years.

Those inline ads from the gaming companies and bonobos and the like are sure annoying. But nothing is worse than buzzfeed spam.
post #8337 of 11418
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Those inline ads from the gaming companies and bonobos and the like are sure annoying. But nothing is worse than buzzfeed spam.

 

You'll never believe what Facebook did now! 18 lifehacks to improve your FB viewing experience #6 is literally insane!

post #8338 of 11418
I wonder what 2016 has in store for the markets.

2017 definitely feels like a recession year.

Dat looming bear 😲
post #8339 of 11418
so... GLF just dropped. And SUNE is down pretty hard so far too.

MNKD also hit pretty hard.
post #8340 of 11418
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so... GLF just dropped. And SUNE is down pretty hard so far too.

MNKD also hit pretty hard.

I am likely going to take the tax loss on GLF and move it into TDW once the shock wears off. GLF's results were far worse. 

 

That said if you feel GLF will survive then it is cheaper than TDW relative to book value. I just don't like their lack of diversification in operations.

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