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post #2791 of 5561
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You're right, that was a bit silly to say. My point was more to say, "does this company have a product that is this months fad, or is it something that will be useful for quite sometime." When i wrote it, I was thinking along the lines of Xenga or Groupon.

What's Xenga? Just kidding


I've been very successful investing/swing trading by only investing in companies I understood and believed in, and then only buying them as the markets got cheap.

Trading gets pretty easy if you learn some basic technical analysis and buy "strong" companies when the signals appear on longer-term charts (I use month and week charts). Granted I didn't start trading until late 2009 so I haven't experienced any bear markets.

Another rule I have is to watch a company for at least 3-6 months after I've heard about it. If I miss out, oh well. Not like I knew about the opportunity before. But three to six months is a decent amount of time to learn more about the company and the stock's behavior.
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Dividend champions do actually need to evolve with the times, they usually just do so at a slower pace. I lean on oil producers, tobacco, consumer staples, finance, pharma, fast food, alcohol, telecom and energy providers. These industries all change, but at a much slower pace then tech. For that reason the big names have been the same for years, decades, some over a century.
post #2793 of 5561
Been on a short hiatus, back now. Looks like a PIPE for ACTC, yikes. TIMBEERRRRRR
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AMRN seems to be falling to a good price.
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AMRN seems to be falling to a good price.

Yeah, gotta give retail investors a chance to sell at a loss and chase some other stock heh.
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CVD Technologies.  Gotta get dat Graphene investment somehow, although I am pretty late to the party with that.  

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Thanks for response guys. I think i'll start with reading that book and opening a mock investment account to see how i'll do first.

This is generally not a great approach, the main reason is that you'll behave differently with real money, even if you cant see it now, you will.
post #2798 of 5561
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AMRN seems to be falling to a good price.

Yeah tempted, gonna read some analyst reports tmrw AM
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I want to short Apple. I think it'll go down in the intermediate/long-run.

Having been interested in the tech hardware world for a while, I see Apple's sky-high market share as an imminent sign of its downfall. To be considered the most valuable company in history within such a volatile industry is not the best news: ask Microsoft, back when it was the most valuable at the height of the 2000 bubble. With the gap left by Jobs, the pace of innovation is slowing within Apple; I believe the iPhone 5 was the last phone in the works and you can sense much of his influence wasn't exerted on that product in his last years. It wouldn't surprise me if a leaner and more agile tech company reinvents the tech landscape and is able to topple Apple in a few years (as Apple's package of hardware and software did to Microsoft's software).

Apple still holds the most leverage in the industry due to its high market cap and talent. It still has the potential to be the highest inflation-adjusted valued company in history if the greater global consumer markets are still untapped and it continues to release blockbusters like the iPhone and the iPad. But at the first sign of troubling news (i.e. management woes, a bad conference event, etc.) , I will short Apple due to my belief that an increasingly clunky and slower-moving organization can never remain on top in the tech industry.
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So many are touting the Lumina 920 as the iPhone killer...I just don't see it. Thoughts?
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anyone think buying RIM right now is a good idea? how much more downward movement could we see realistically?
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So many are touting the Lumina 920 as the iPhone killer...I just don't see it. Thoughts?
Nokia has such strong hardware. Software never keeps up though. Had the E72 which was a powerhouse in terms of specs, but symbian was a straight up joke
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anyone think buying RIM right now is a good idea? how much more downward movement could we see realistically?
Downward to zero.
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Originally Posted by krn.nyc View Post

I want to short Apple. I think it'll go down in the intermediate/long-run.
Having been interested in the tech hardware world for a while, I see Apple's sky-high market share as an imminent sign of its downfall. To be considered the most valuable company in history within such a volatile industry is not the best news: ask Microsoft, back when it was the most valuable at the height of the 2000 bubble. With the gap left by Jobs, the pace of innovation is slowing within Apple; I believe the iPhone 5 was the last phone in the works and you can sense much of his influence wasn't exerted on that product in his last years. It wouldn't surprise me if a leaner and more agile tech company reinvents the tech landscape and is able to topple Apple in a few years (as Apple's package of hardware and software did to Microsoft's software).
Apple still holds the most leverage in the industry due to its high market cap and talent. It still has the potential to be the highest inflation-adjusted valued company in history if the greater global consumer markets are still untapped and it continues to release blockbusters like the iPhone and the iPad. But at the first sign of troubling news (i.e. management woes, a bad conference event, etc.) , I will short Apple due to my belief that an increasingly clunky and slower-moving organization can never remain on top in the tech industry.

Apple sold 5 million phones in under a week. Not good enough for you? They don't need to do anything if they keep their profit margins where they are right now. If I were to short, I'd wait until February at the earliest. And in terms of iPhone 5, you really think that was the last phone in the works? Sure no jobs, but plenty of innovative ideas. A company that upends Apple would need more than a few years to really scale their business / supply chain / retail network, that doesn't happen overnight. And when it does, the price correction will have happened at a relaxed pace and your short would have given you at best market returns but more likely lower or negative returns

edit: also how do you define bad? Naming iPad 3 just the iPad has good and bad points depending on who you ask - I personally think it makes sense for business but don't like it. So I should short AAPL cause that's a bad conference?
post #2803 of 5561
Scary to short AAPL. Like in your example MSFT, it only fell 50% from it's peak. but irrationality is a crazy thing, if the economy starts to recover and people start buying stocks etc, who knows what AAPL could go up to. Kind of like Whitney Tilson, who had the balls to short NFLX. He was correct, but he went in at like $100 something, only to see nflx go to $300 before it finally collapsed.

If you really wanna short, best to not be a hero, and short it on the decline.
post #2804 of 5561
short aapl before 2013's Q3 earnings release
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My philosophy when it comes to shorting anything? Don't.

It's not worth it. Inherently the max profit you'll make is 100%.

Not only do you have to be right about a company, you also have to have the right timing. Which makes it twice as hard.

If you don't like a company, don't buy it. Move on and find other opportunities for growth. It's a lot more fun.
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