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post #2761 of 5561
2-3 or 2-3 hundred/thousand?
post #2762 of 5561
I wish I have the ammo to buy that much. Sticking to single digits.
post #2763 of 5561

Typical British jealousy Real hasn't taken out a loan since 2002. You must be thinking of Barca.  In fact during the transfer season real made money. 

CLUBS WITH MOST REVENUE*
 1 Real Madrid CF 479.5
 2 FC Barcelona 450.7
 3 Manchester United 367
 4 Bayern Munchen 321.4
 5 Arsenal 251.1
 6 Chelsea 249.8
 7 AC Milan 235.1
 8 Inter Milan 211.4
 9 Liverpool 203.3
10 Schalke 04 202.4
 11  Tottenham Hotspur 181
 12  Manchester City 169.6
13 Juventus 153.9
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In millions of Euros

 
Contrary to popular belief, Real Madrid and Barcelona are relatively profitable: Madrid have made total profits of around €200 million in the last five years, including €47 million last season; while Barcelona’s loss was only €12 million. Adjusting for non-cash flow expenses like depreciation and amortisation plus interest produces very impressive EBITDA of €151 million for Madrid and pretty good €66 million for Barcelona. In the same way, Manchester United’s notable ability to generate cash results in excellent EBITDA of €138 million.
 
So, Madrid’s cash flow over debt ratio comes in at 26%, much better than the others: Manchester United 14%, Arsenal 13% and Barcelona 11%. Simply put, the higher the percentage, the better the club’s ability to pay its debt.
 

Last season madrid won 76% of matches, won la liga and went farther in the Champions.  ManU won 73% of matches lost the Premier and went out in group stages.  So tell me which team would you bet on financially? 

post #2764 of 5561
Hm German Court gives ESM the green light, but some conditions. Europe is so fucked up it's hard to understand anything though.

Fed meeting concludes Thurs, and then we can be without macro news for hopefully a week or two.
post #2765 of 5561
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Hm German Court gives ESM the green light, but some conditions. Europe is so fucked up it's hard to understand anything though.
Fed meeting concludes Thurs, and then we can be without macro news for hopefully a week or two.

They basically confirmed the creation of the esm (european stability mechanism) doesn't conflict with the german constitution. European states still need to ratify the treaty in order to bound themselves to fund near-bankruptcy countries, but this was the last true hassle since the esm treaty required at least 90% of the eu economic worth (germany is worth about 27%).

German constitutional court also decided germany will contribute for no more than 190 mld. Any other contribution exceeding that amount shall be examinated and approved by the parliament.

The efsf (an european institution with similar aims) had a lending availability of 440 mld, of which 290 have been borrowed by portugal, ireland, greece (x2), spain (banks only). The esm has a subscribed capital of 700 mld, 80 of which are to be paid by 2014, + invested assets the eu countries need to keep at its disposal worth more than 600 mld, and it will be able to lend up to 500 mld
post #2766 of 5561
Out of AEO call options +300% after a special dividend was announced this morning icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif Not bad for a few days. Still room for certain retailers, I think...
post #2767 of 5561
What do you think of the AAPL announcements?
post #2768 of 5561
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What do you think of the AAPL announcements?

Ability and speed of shipping out phones was better than expected. Other than that standard news. Think I'm gonna sell a bit in January rush
post #2769 of 5561
Fed tomorrow >.> am I the only one who thinks 1 bad job reports doesn't mean they are gonna bust out QE3? I think they might just do pretty much noothing and keep qe3 as a floor reassurance if the economy does go to shit they'll act. But with Europe in the short term fixed, markets at 4 year highs, and inflation going up they might not launch a QE3.
post #2770 of 5561
QE3.
post #2771 of 5561
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post #2772 of 5561
smile.gif I guess they did implement, The moment I saw that, bought a ton of BAC stock. smile.gif
post #2773 of 5561
Thank you for moving the price in the correct direction. biggrin.gif
post #2774 of 5561
Happy I stocked up throughout this week icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #2775 of 5561
Nice.

I'm too scared. I always sideline it for Big macro events. Would rather miss out on a little bit of profit over potential risk. smile.gif

I'll prob continue to add to my position. This rally's still got a ways to go, esp with no negative news on the horizon in the immediate future. I mean later possible downgrade, and people worrying about fiscal cliff/election or w/e and some profit taking.
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