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Out of FB. I can't support these new ownership structures with no shareholder rights. It's a bad trend.
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Time to up your car budget icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

To celebrate, I purchased some white ramuman trademark t-shirts (Si Valley approved) on clearance. The second car will be awhile out - tabled the McLaren for the house, which is likely a 2 year project :/. I'm not HRoi baller.


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Out of FB. I can't support these new ownership structures with no shareholder rights. It's a bad trend.

The Valley honestly doesn't care about conventions or trends.
post #10158 of 11163
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The Valley honestly doesn't care about conventions or trends.

I know, but I'm not in S Valley, and I want my shareholdings to come with voting rights. When you see trends like they, they're not for the benefit of guys like us, so I'll take my profit and move on to things I have more belief in.
post #10159 of 11163
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I know, but I'm not in S Valley, and I want my shareholdings to come with voting rights. When you see trends like they, they're not for the benefit of guys like us, so I'll take my profit and move on to things I have more belief in.

You have the free and clear option of not purchasing a stock. I'm not not getting the 'guys like us statement'. Publically traded companies. Buy or don't buy. Underlying positions long or short or options. Have fun.
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The Valley honestly doesn't care about conventions or trends.

I honestly can't tell if you are joking or not. I will leave the implications of that statement as an exercise for the reader.
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You have the free and clear option of not purchasing a stock. I'm not not getting the 'guys like us statement'. Publically traded companies. Buy or don't buy. Underlying positions long or short or options. Have fun.

You said what I said. Tried it on for size, don't like the benevolent dictator structure, moving on.
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I honestly can't tell if you are joking or not. I will leave the implications of that statement as an exercise for the reader.

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You said what I said. Tried it on for size, don't like the benevolent dictator structure, moving on.

Not joking. There is no complicated thing to read into. Buy a stock long or short, or the options calls or puts or whatever you see fit. Ask the SEC to change the rules on the stock classes if you feel so inclined.

There's no exercise to the reader.

Sorry for being crass.
post #10163 of 11163
Still rather early into trading but curious as to why FB has trended lower after popping up to 8% in AH.

Maybe it was the commentary in the earnings call that they expect growth to slow? But even when that was mentioned by the CFO, the stock was up around 6.5% AH. Started dropping to 4-5% after the call ended.

Now it's up 2.5%

Edit: in b4 AH price action not being an accurate indicator commentary
Edited by GreenFrog - 7/28/16 at 6:52am
post #10164 of 11163
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Still rather early into trading but curious as to why FB has trended lower after popping up to 8% in AH.

Maybe it was the commentary in the earnings call that they expect growth to slow? But even when that was mentioned by the CFO, the stock was up around 6.5% AH. Started dropping to 4-5% after the call ended.

Now it's up 2.5%

Edit: in b4 AH price action not being an accurate indicator commentary

AH has lower volume.
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AH has lower volume.

In after AH not being an accurate indicator commentary.
post #10166 of 11163
Yeah, I don't really get what is going through the heads of most AH traders...or I guess 50% of the AH traders, since I understand why someone would sell at +8%.

Why would you want to pay an 8% premium to buy a share (even though it was almost certainly a very small volume, there were shares that changed hands)? Do you really expect FB to increase by more than 8% when actual trading opens up? Those guys all lost money on the deal...could have bought shares during trading hours right now and paid less.

I could see taking a big loss AH if you see news that the company is basically going to be crippled. If you are the first person to put in an order, you could sell early on a stock that is going to seriously tank...but sending in new money at +8% on a stock that is already at record highs and is unlikely to do do something to pop to 25% or something? Why?
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You can see AH trading on Nasdaq with the size of positions traded.  We see it our on organizations stock too.  Someone will come in with a quick feeler of say 100 shares of some positive or negative price thus "creating" what people are paying AH.  I assume FB trades a lot more in AH but someone just throws that feeler out there to get the party started to where they think/want the price to go.  

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Yeah, I don't really get what is going through the heads of most AH traders...or I guess 50% of the AH traders, since I understand why someone would sell at +8%.

Why would you want to pay an 8% premium to buy a share (even though it was almost certainly a very small volume, there were shares that changed hands)? Do you really expect FB to increase by more than 8% when actual trading opens up? Those guys all lost money on the deal...could have bought shares during trading hours right now and paid less.

I could see taking a big loss AH if you see news that the company is basically going to be crippled. If you are the first person to put in an order, you could sell early on a stock that is going to seriously tank...but sending in new money at +8% on a stock that is already at record highs and is unlikely to do do something to pop to 25% or something? Why?

A lot of the trading on + earnings AH are guys short covering, which tends to explain the price spike. When you need stock to cover, you pay up because you don't want that position exposed overnight.
post #10169 of 11163
dat GOOG -- drinks on otc!
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dat GOOG -- drinks on otc!

We all have drinks on otc very Friday -- oh wait, has he not been inviting you? Awkward.
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