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SOLD: Hermes Steve Messenger in Vert Olive
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2/2/11 at 2:18am
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2/2/11 at 9:42am
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2/2/11 at 9:48am
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2/2/11 at 7:31pm
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2/2/11 at 9:01pm
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2/3/11 at 3:54pm
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2/3/11 at 10:21pm
^ Several factors immediately came to mind - the brand, the quality of the leather, and the fact that it's supposed to be all hand made by artisans, i.e., the leather was cut by hand and the whole thing was hand stitched - check the stitching in first pic and the thread was probably hand waxed, too. Other "hand-made" bags on the market are still cut and sewn by machines (but handled by humans...). Someone I know attended a presentation/demonstration by a bunch of Hermes leather artisans and he was amazed at their skills and the speed at which they work while keeping the quality high. That said, whether it's really worth such a price tag is all in the eye of the beholder of course. oh yeah, to the OP - nice bag!!!
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2/4/11 at 6:35am
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2/4/11 at 12:36pm
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2/4/11 at 5:50pm
beauty. Why;s it so friggin expensive? cause its an Hermes. nuff said. OK, so please only take my next question for exactly what it is as there's no loaded insinuations behind it. Hermes is one of those top tier brands that unfortunately, one must have to buy with extreme caution. I've been looking a t anfew pieces and have only used the "if its too good to be true, move on" mantra when shopping for price. But can some H aficionados enlighten me on things to look for when spotting a counterfeit? I'd love a calf or croc wallet and am just so nervous to buy online, yet I'm not hermes riche enough to go into the SF boutique and call it a day.
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2/5/11 at 7:34am
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Nice bag but can anyone enlighten me why a hermes like this should cost 3k ? I know it's hermes. Besides the name, what factors make this specific bag so expensive, the detail of the sewing ? the exotic leather ? or what ? All been said, it's still a very nice bag.
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^ Several factors immediately came to mind - the brand, the quality of the leather, and the fact that it's supposed to be all hand made by artisans, i.e., the leather was cut by hand and the whole thing was hand stitched - check the stitching in first pic and the thread was probably hand waxed, too. Other "hand-made" bags on the market are still cut and sewn by machines (but handled by humans...). Someone I know attended a presentation/demonstration by a bunch of Hermes leather artisans and he was amazed at their skills and the speed at which they work while keeping the quality high. That said, whether it's really worth such a price tag is all in the eye of the beholder of course. oh yeah, to the OP - nice bag!!!
For the OP, I assume the leather is Clemence? (grained baby bull calf, very soft but durable). For those curious or doubting the OP's pricing, if you check the Hermes website, you'll see that the relatively plain canvas/leather-trim bags are about $3500, and full leather bags start generally in the $4500 range. Bags in full Clemence, Fjord, or Togo are usually always more than $6000. As for why it costs this much, as Fstyles said... it is because it is Hermes. Yes, the leathers and the stitching are the best in the world. Hermes typically gets first "dibs" on the hides from the best tanneries in the world. Their "saddle stitch" is famous and done in such a way that it will last forever. The "edging," too, is superlative. It's a "lifetime" bag. That being said, is it worth it? If you have the money, yes. It's sort of like wondering if a Bugatti is REALLY worth 10 Porsches or 4 Rolls Royces. At that price level, it really isn't about dollar-for-dollar/pound-for-pound matchups. You buy Hermes because you can, and because you want Hermes. They know this, and that is why their pricing is unique from any other major brand (for example, the large leather messenger from Valextra is $2500, the LV grained "Naxos" Calf is in the $3000 range... so less than HALF the price of the similar Hermes.) As for counterfeits, I think spotting fakes for Hermes is easier than LV or Gucci or any others. The quality of the leather and stitching is so superb, it's really quite easy to spot when they aren't. ANYTHING that looks "off" about it will mark a fake; weird tags, shoddy stitching/edging, or leather that doesn't look like it cost $6800. That being said, you still have to be careful as fakes are getting "better." I would probably not buy Hermes sight unseen, unless I knew the seller or he was very transparent with "provenance" Good luck, OP, with the sale. Gorgeous bag, though I really think you should make yourself keep it! Ebay is also good for fetching a good price, though I would list it in the Women's area because the traffic is 100xs that of the "men's bags" area. You could probably get close to your asking price there and most men shopping for Hermes generally do so in the women's area.
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2/5/11 at 8:24pm
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2/6/11 at 12:13am
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2/6/11 at 3:11am
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The real question is not why it should cost $3k, but why it should cost $6800. I've seen this bag in the stores; that retail is accurate (date is also accurate... "K" in a square marks 2007.)
This price is quite good for this bag in this condition, IMHO, though like the other "mortals" on this thread it's way out of my price range.
For the OP, I assume the leather is Clemence? (grained baby bull calf, very soft but durable). For those curious or doubting the OP's pricing, if you check the Hermes website, you'll see that the relatively plain canvas/leather-trim bags are about $3500, and full leather bags start generally in the $4500 range. Bags in full Clemence, Fjord, or Togo are usually always more than $6000.
As for why it costs this much, as Fstyles said... it is because it is Hermes. Yes, the leathers and the stitching are the best in the world. Hermes typically gets first "dibs" on the hides from the best tanneries in the world. Their "saddle stitch" is famous and done in such a way that it will last forever. The "edging," too, is superlative. It's a "lifetime" bag.
That being said, is it worth it? If you have the money, yes. It's sort of like wondering if a Bugatti is REALLY worth 10 Porsches or 4 Rolls Royces. At that price level, it really isn't about dollar-for-dollar/pound-for-pound matchups. You buy Hermes because you can, and because you want Hermes. They know this, and that is why their pricing is unique from any other major brand (for example, the large leather messenger from Valextra is $2500, the LV grained "Naxos" Calf is in the $3000 range... so less than HALF the price of the similar Hermes.)
As for counterfeits, I think spotting fakes for Hermes is easier than LV or Gucci or any others. The quality of the leather and stitching is so superb, it's really quite easy to spot when they aren't. ANYTHING that looks "off" about it will mark a fake; weird tags, shoddy stitching/edging, or leather that doesn't look like it cost $6800. That being said, you still have to be careful as fakes are getting "better." I would probably not buy Hermes sight unseen, unless I knew the seller or he was very transparent with "provenance"
Good luck, OP, with the sale. Gorgeous bag, though I really think you should make yourself keep it! Ebay is also good for fetching a good price, though I would list it in the Women's area because the traffic is 100xs that of the "men's bags" area. You could probably get close to your asking price there and most men shopping for Hermes generally do so in the women's area.
This price is quite good for this bag in this condition, IMHO, though like the other "mortals" on this thread it's way out of my price range.
For the OP, I assume the leather is Clemence? (grained baby bull calf, very soft but durable). For those curious or doubting the OP's pricing, if you check the Hermes website, you'll see that the relatively plain canvas/leather-trim bags are about $3500, and full leather bags start generally in the $4500 range. Bags in full Clemence, Fjord, or Togo are usually always more than $6000.As for why it costs this much, as Fstyles said... it is because it is Hermes. Yes, the leathers and the stitching are the best in the world. Hermes typically gets first "dibs" on the hides from the best tanneries in the world. Their "saddle stitch" is famous and done in such a way that it will last forever. The "edging," too, is superlative. It's a "lifetime" bag.
That being said, is it worth it? If you have the money, yes. It's sort of like wondering if a Bugatti is REALLY worth 10 Porsches or 4 Rolls Royces. At that price level, it really isn't about dollar-for-dollar/pound-for-pound matchups. You buy Hermes because you can, and because you want Hermes. They know this, and that is why their pricing is unique from any other major brand (for example, the large leather messenger from Valextra is $2500, the LV grained "Naxos" Calf is in the $3000 range... so less than HALF the price of the similar Hermes.)
As for counterfeits, I think spotting fakes for Hermes is easier than LV or Gucci or any others. The quality of the leather and stitching is so superb, it's really quite easy to spot when they aren't. ANYTHING that looks "off" about it will mark a fake; weird tags, shoddy stitching/edging, or leather that doesn't look like it cost $6800. That being said, you still have to be careful as fakes are getting "better." I would probably not buy Hermes sight unseen, unless I knew the seller or he was very transparent with "provenance"
Good luck, OP, with the sale. Gorgeous bag, though I really think you should make yourself keep it! Ebay is also good for fetching a good price, though I would list it in the Women's area because the traffic is 100xs that of the "men's bags" area. You could probably get close to your asking price there and most men shopping for Hermes generally do so in the women's area.
Excellent post.
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How did you afford it? I read your post history and this bag seems out of your league, to be frank.
+1. WTF?
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