Harry Rosen pricing/business model - Page 4

Very much my thoughts too....

Have you been in a Harry Rosen recently? The clientele is upper middle class, yes - but the majority of their stores are nothing like the Bloor st. location, and I'm willing to bet there are very few people hitting up the Cinnabon and then dropping 100 G's at Square One or the Rideau Centre. If you want to know how Rosen's pricing model works take a peek at the distribution rights for a bunch of the designers and lines that they carry - it's easy to dictate what it will sell for if you are the only person in Canada anyone can buy it from.

Wtf, whats wrong with these people? You could fly to Naples, and savile row and have your whole wardrobe tailored. fuck harry...

But than you would have to fly somewhere just to buy clothes. That's a cool thought for us SF junkies, but not for most people.

You think these people either have the time or interest to do that?

They just want their business wardrobe covered and have it ASAP.

All anybody needs to know coming into this thread is that SuitMyself hasn't the faintest idea what he's talking about. Canada isn't filled with mystical Monaco-bound snowbirds buying up couture dresses by the dozen for their Russian oligarch mistresses. I bet you could count on one hand the number of times someone has waltzed in and dropped $100,000 at a Harry Rosen store in the last decade. I don't think you have any idea whether it's happened at all, frankly -- this is a perfect example of an unchallenged assertion snowballing into ridiculous idiocy. Lord Barrington says price IS an issue for most HR customers. Hearsay. Misquoting Barrington to "prove" the opposite. Restating own hearsay as established fact. Sigh.

suitmyself is apparently retarded and hasn't stepped into a harry rosen EVER. it's mostly kids spending their birthday money and middle aged men buying a t shirt so they can walk around the mall with the bag lol I assure you that a majority of their sales are to small timer customers.

that being said, when I used to shop there the SA would ALWAYS discount me a minimum of 10% off. I always appreciated this and it, to this day, still makes me want to go in and buy things from him solely out of appreciation. sucks for OP that they didn't have the same respect for him, but then again I dropped much more than 4500 there.

FTFY youngster...hehe

Much of what has been written here about HR's business model is conjecture. So let me do a little.

The downtown stores (Bloor, Eaton Centre) cater to investment bankers, lawyers, etc. They closed their Scotia Plaza store because a lot of their customers don't shop for clothes without their wives.

Yorkdale, Square One, etc. cater to upper middle class suburbanites. My guess is that they sell more casualwear there as impulse purchases.

The truly well-dressed men in Toronto --- and there are few of them --- still shop at Walter Beauchamp, Perry's, or bespoke tailors like House of Salgado. Harry Rosen has always struck me more as place for men who don't particularly care about clothes but want to be (or need to be) moderately well-dressed. They aren't concerned about thread counts or surgeon's cuffs.

The HR outlet in Mississauga has a lot of junk, but there are diamonds in amongst the cubic zirconias.I have purchased 4 Brioni suits there in the last 2 years, each for less than $2000. Are they last year's models? Probably, but realistically, who cares? I'm 45.

They closed the Scotia Plaza store to open a nicer one in First Canadian Place.

Thanks, TRINI, didn't know. It was a SA at Scotia Plaza who told me it was tough to sell clothing to married men without their wives.

HR closed their Scotia Plaza store because they moved to First Canadian Place.
Walter Beauchamp leaves much to be desired. They quoted me a price to do a hem on a pair of pants for $75. Granted that they were not store bought, but at $75!?!? The SA's reason is that the store is a bespoke shop and the tailor has to take his time off eslewhere to attend to this task.......bunch of BS.

HR prices are high. If you can afford it, all the best. If not, buy it eslewhere if you can find it. SF has "taught" us to become better shoppers!

BTW, you can't even compare the Bloor and Eaton Centre stores.
The Bloor store is the absolute flag ship with bespoke, Tom Ford, Zegna Couture, whereas Eaton Centre is just your regular mall-level HR.
The store in First Canadian Place is somewhere in between. They have nice shoes btw.