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post #46 of 89
My snark and responses from another Ovadia thread

1.

Quote:
Originally Posted by comrade

"Trendy, costumey, dreck.
Although this Yiddish expletive
may be inappropriate for the probably Sephardic Ovadias."

I'm curious as to how you can judge this based on three clear look book pictures? Having seen these garments in person, I can speak for their quality and attention to detail - I think that aside from the slimness, most of it errs away from trendy (however you are defining that) and more towards classic tailoring. It just so happens that what some may deem 'trendy' in menswear these days happens to reflect a return to a more tailored style, i.e. 2 inch cuffed wool trousers, double breasted jackets, spread collars, etc. Double monks may have jumped the shark recently, but they will still be a staple footwear choice long after the (admittedly annoying) buzz dies down. The Ovadias are extremely nice and willing to chat with anyone interested in learning more about their process, history, etc. "Trendy, costumey, dreck" just seemed a bit harsh to me and I was wondering if you had actual experience dealing with the clothes yourself - I'm sure you would find something to your liking if you did.

Furthermore, If you judged all lines by their lookbooks, apparently Isaia's most recent f/w collection is for fly fishing outdoorsmen...
http://downeastandout.tumblr.com/


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Originally Posted by maineratheart


I'm curious as to how you can judge this based on three clear look book pictures? Having seen these garments in person, I can speak for their quality and attention to detail - I think that aside from the slimness, most of it errs away from trendy (however you are defining that) and more towards classic tailoring. It just so happens that what some may deem 'trendy' in menswear these days happens to reflect a return to a more tailored style, i.e. 2 inch cuffed wool trousers, double breasted jackets, spread collars, etc. Double monks may have jumped the shark recently, but they will still be a staple footwear choice long after the (admittedly annoying) buzz dies down. The Ovadias are extremely nice and willing to chat with anyone interested in learning more about their process, history, etc. "Trendy, costumey, dreck" just seemed a bit harsh to me and I was wondering if you had actual experience dealing with the clothes yourself - I'm sure you would find something to your liking if you did.

Furthermore, If you judged all lines by their lookbooks, apparently Isaia's most recent f/w collection is for fly fishing outdoorsmen...

"Your rejoinder is larded with cliches. Not a good sign. To me this collection is a caricature
of classical clothing mediated through a Pee Wee Herman aesthetic. The models look like
they've outgrown their garments. As for the Ovadia's interpersonal skills, that is irrelevant.
Perhaps they might try social work." (Comrade)

Re: Isaia- I haven't bought any in five years. I don't like their recent OTR offerings
post #47 of 89
i believe the term is...dressed by the internet
post #48 of 89
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Originally Posted by dallo View Post

i believe the term is...dressed by the internet

Can someone please explain why it is a bad thing for one to get the majority of their ideas about dressing from the internet?
post #49 of 89
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Originally Posted by erk View Post

Can someone please explain why it is a bad thing for one to get the majority of their ideas about dressing from the internet?

Your question is only valid if you do not uphold the idea of hierarchy.
The internet dispenses with hierarchy. If one accepts this anarchy,
then it is not a "bad thing" to accept ideas about dressing from
this source. As for how you will look, is another discussion entirely.
post #50 of 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by comrade View Post

Your question is only valid if you do not uphold the idea of hierarchy.
The internet dispenses with hierarchy. If one accepts this anarchy,
then it is not a "bad thing" to accept ideas about dressing from
this source. As for how you will look, is another discussion entirely.

Can you please elaborate on this hierarchy idea? Hierarchy of what? Lets get to the point and dispense with this profundity through ambiguity nonsense.

Regardless of where one gets their ideas, judgment still plays a role in what is actually purchased and worn. Unless there is some magic of the internet that takes away our decision making ability, I fail to grasp the mocking "dressed by the internet".
post #51 of 89
This is Crisp.
post #52 of 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by erk View Post

Can you please elaborate on this hierarchy idea? Hierarchy of what? Lets get to the point and dispense with this profundity through ambiguity nonsense.
Regardless of where one gets their ideas, judgment still plays a role in what is actually purchased and worn. Unless there is some magic of the internet that takes away our decision making ability, I fail to grasp the mocking "dressed by the internet".
Quote:
Originally Posted by comrade View Post

Your question is only valid if you do not uphold the idea of hierarchy.
The internet dispenses with hierarchy. If one accepts this anarchy,
then it is not a "bad thing" to accept ideas about dressing from
this source. As for how you will look, is another discussion entirely.

I should have said "hierarchy of taste"
The style of the Upper Classes set the standard for taste.
For the past two centuries or so, until maybe 30 years ago,
mens' style in the Western World was based on what was worn
by the English gentleman. This of course, permutated over time
geography. The Ivy League style, for example, is derived
from it.
post #53 of 89

Does anyone have an exact address to their place in NYC? 

post #54 of 89

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Originally Posted by kwv07 View Post

Does anyone have an exact address to their place in NYC? 

 

Their show room is 37 West 13th St, NY, NY, 10011 - Here's the e-mail: info@ovadiaandsons.com

 

The showroom is by appointment only i think because its all bespoke/MTM... Their RTW stuff can be found at Bloomingdales

post #55 of 89
Damn, what's up with the harsh indictment of Ovada gear? I find nothing too offensive about the brand. I own a shirt, and it's a serious piece clothing. I think their collection is pretty remarkable for such a young brand. Is some of their shit potentially trendy? Sure. But generally speaking they provide classic lines for a younger generation that wants a trimmer silhouette. Aint nothin wrong with that.
post #56 of 89
Some of the trousers on their website were marked as having a 37" unfinished outseam. That can't possibly be right, can it?
post #57 of 89
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Originally Posted by deepitm View Post

Some of the trousers on their website were marked as having a 37" unfinished outseam. That can't possibly be right, can it?

Yeah, they must mean 37" inseam.
post #58 of 89
their flannel trousers have dropped to $138, much better than the original $365.

http://www.ovadiaandsons.com/shop/categories/Trousers/
post #59 of 89
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Originally Posted by LJubel328 View Post

their flannel trousers have dropped to $138, much better than the original $365.
http://www.ovadiaandsons.com/shop/categories/Trousers/

Anyone have experience with their trousers? Fit? Quality?
post #60 of 89
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Originally Posted by JawnGault View Post

Anyone have experience with their trousers? Fit? Quality?

I inquired about them a few weeks ago and they said they run TTS. Their shirts are a tad slim though
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