Originally Posted by JimmyHoffa
Hopefully this can bring some clarity to what I am saying. Here you can see the different 'fits'. Slim, regular and relaxed. The last one is the Bedale. People like the Bedale but they want it to fit like the slim jacket in the first picture. This is never going to happen unless you maybe get the Bedale-SL which was built for Japanese people. With jackets, fit is king and you have to select your style based on what kind of fit you want. I believe all the people in these pictures are wearing the same size. So you can see how a 'medium' can get thrown around a lot, but it means nothing without context.
I just bought this jacket while on vacation last week in York (from the states). I've tried on various Barbours over the last couple of years and could never get a good fit in anything I liked. I would have had to get a XL in the Commander to get it to fit my shoulders, and then the body of the coat was huge.
The only decent fit I've ever gotten was in the International line. The brass buttons and the belt killed it for me. This jacket, called the Simonside, solved those problems for me. I even like the Union Jack painted button on the pocket. Reminds me of the trip. I got it in large and can put a sweatshirt underneath it, but it doesn't fit huge with just a shirt. I will wear it for a while before deciding if I want to get the body slimmed down at all. Right now I'm leaning towards no.
This is the best pic of the coat. No comments on the goofy smile, there are a lot of stairs to the top of the York Minster, it made me loopy.