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post #2206 of 2699
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Originally Posted by Magic1 View Post

Is the Barbour x Norton and Sons St. Kilda, in olive, still available anywhere. thanks for the help.

Some dude posted he saw it at the Barbour outlet a week or so ago.
post #2207 of 2699

Hi guys,

I was wondering if anybody can explain if there are any differences in sizing between the Tokito commander and the new Dept. B version.

I have heard that the Tokito is a much slimmer fit to standard barbour. 

Does the Dept B version follow the same sizing or is it sized to standard barbour size?

 

I'm a 36 inch chest and 5 ft 7, so standard barbour small would be too big.

 

Thanks in advance

post #2208 of 2699

I own the Debt B and have never handled the original Tokito, but from what I understand they are sized the same. I am usually a medium and sized up to a large in the Commander and it is still a very trim fit with only enough room for a thin sweater underneath. The size chart on End is pretty accurate, the problem you may have with the Commander is that the waist doesn't taper in so you may feel it is a bit billowy around the midsection if you are a skinny dude, not a problem in my case though.

post #2209 of 2699
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Originally Posted by thisstylishlife View Post

I own the Debt B and have never handled the original Tokito, but from what I understand they are sized the same. I am usually a medium and sized up to a large in the Commander and it is still a very trim fit with only enough room for a thin sweater underneath. The size chart on End is pretty accurate, the problem you may have with the Commander is that the waist doesn't taper in so you may feel it is a bit billowy around the midsection if you are a skinny dude, not a problem in my case though.

The size chart on End is not accurate for the Commander in XL and seem suspect In other sizes. I ordered based on the measurements on the Barbour site.
post #2210 of 2699

Thanks alot. I will consult both barbour and end sites.

I'm not drastically skinny, just small. The bits that I need to be fit in a jacket are the chest and shoulders. If there is too much in the chest/shoulders then the sleeves end up being way too long for me. I can tailor the rest if need be.

Seems there is alot of differing opinions on whether the dept B and tokito versions fit differently but it's a relief to hear that barbour havent just put the dept B version back to standard Barbour sizing.

I can fit very snugly into a standard Barbour XS (not that you find many) so hopefully the commander in a S will be a good fit

post #2211 of 2699
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Originally Posted by thimble12 View Post
 

Hi guys,

I was wondering if anybody can explain if there are any differences in sizing between the Tokito commander and the new Dept. B version.

I have heard that the Tokito is a much slimmer fit to standard barbour. 

Does the Dept B version follow the same sizing or is it sized to standard barbour size?

 

I'm a 36 inch chest and 5 ft 7, so standard barbour small would be too big.

 

Thanks in advance

I'm 5 ft 5, 36 inch chest. Bought a navy Dept B Commander in small, and it's perfect. My body leans on the skinny side, so even if I have a sweater underneath, it fits well. Go for medium if you're not slim.

post #2212 of 2699
Thanks casval, that sounds great. I have a slim build and I like things to be closely cut to the body so I will order in the small
post #2213 of 2699

People get confused by Barbour's sizing and styles, but without having tried any on or having bought a jacket I am fairly confident I have it sorted out.

 

There are three 'fits' - relaxed, regular and slim. Then within each of those fits there are styles, i.e Bedale, Commander, Bede etc.

 

Where people go wrong, is that they see a style of jacket (i.e. pocket placement, colour, material, zip) they like  e.g. Bedale, and then they try and make it 'fit' how they want it to fit. So some people want a Bedale that fits like a sports coat - quite snug, smart and very city ready. Sadly, this is never going to happen, because the Bedale is a 'relaxed' fit. A relaxed fit is designed to be worn loosely and have several layers underneath. So if you want to change the entire design of the jacket (in terms of fit) you'll have to size down aggressively. This basically results in a shitty looking jacket. It is sort of like trying to fit Hummer wheels on your motorbike.

 

Regular fit is designed to have 1 layer underneath/not be tight. Slim is designed to be tight. The jacket will accentuate your body - pronounce the chest and hug the waist. These three sizes I believe, fit very TTS. Again, people have different ideas as to how they want their jacket. So people that bought slim, actually wanted a regular. People that bought a relaxed/regular actually wanted a slim. I believe Barbour's sizing is consistent and logical.

 

The best idea is to start with an idea as to how you want the jacket to fit by selecting slim, regular or relaxed. Then you start to look at the different 'styles' of jackets within that class of fit. Finally, you look at colour. People do the reverse which is why there are so many Bedale fails.

post #2214 of 2699

Hopefully this can bring some clarity to what I am saying. Here you can see the different 'fits'. Slim, regular and relaxed. The last one is the Bedale. People like the Bedale but they want it to fit like the slim jacket in the first picture. This is never going to happen unless you maybe get the Bedale-SL which was built for Japanese people. With jackets, fit is king and you have to select your style based on what kind of fit you want. I believe all the people in these pictures are wearing the same size. So you can see how a 'medium' can get thrown around a lot, but it means nothing without context.

 

 

 

 slim mediumregular medium

 

relaxed medium

post #2215 of 2699

           Thought I would make my first real contribution to this thread. This winter I bought a gamefair, circa 1988, from another member. It was is decent shape for its age, but likely hadn't been waxed in about 10 years (i'm guessing). I didn't have anywhere to take a proper fit picture, but I will post one later. For reference, im 6'4, 205lbs, athletic build, and have very long arms for my height (about 80" wing span). 40" chest, and wear a 16.25" by 38.5" shirt.

 

           I ordered extra fabric from Barbour (which was sent to me free of charge) and had a full 5" added to each sleeve by a local tailor, using said fabric. The work done was great, and much cheaper than sending the coat to barbour. You can tell in the pictures where it was done. The fit in the waist and arms is relaxed, and it great for layering. Fits like there is clearly extra, but isn't super baggy. The fit in the shoulders is surprisingly small though, and is a little constricting when putting a heavy sweater underneath. I have a navy beaufort that I am planning on doing the exact same procedure for.

 

          All of these pictures are pre waxing. I just waxed it this afternoon (my first time). It was messy, and quite labor intensive, and overall, very enjoyable. The coat is currently hanging up drying, and I will post some post wax pictures and fit pics when I get a chance. After waxing, the whole jacket is roughly the same shade as the extra material added to the sleeve. The coat is olive in color.

 

Sorry for the iPhone pics, it was the best I could do.

 

 


 

A few more photos (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2216 of 2699
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Originally Posted by Magic1 View Post

Is the Barbour x Norton and Sons St. Kilda, in olive, still available anywhere. thanks for the help.

 

 

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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post


Some dude posted he saw it at the Barbour outlet a week or so ago.

 

 

Some dude?? That's all I get...I'm crushed :cry:.

 

 

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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Just stopped by the Barbour outlet in Kittery. They still had a handful of Norton & Sons jackets. Barra in Navy M, L, XL, XXL (one of each). They were priced at $699 - 40%. One XL Barra in tan and I think a full size run of St. Kilda jackets in the green color. I didn't check the price but I think it was $100 more than the Barra. I also noticed the a full size run of the Shordace jacket in Navy and a small selection (4-5 pieces) or Beacon and Dept. B items. A full size run is typically one of each size so not a lot of stock.

If I didn't already own the Barra in tan (and a navy Bedale) I'd have bought the navy Barra. It's gorgeous.

 

 

That was on the 18th or 19th, last week. Note, the outlet doesn't ship.

post #2217 of 2699
@ jimmyhoffa- there is a slim fit bedale that's only available in the Japanee market.

SL Bedale in bark
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but you can also purchase it @
http://www.endclothing.co.uk/brands/barbour/barbour-japanese-lightweight-sl-bedale-jacket-179526.html
post #2218 of 2699
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic1 View Post

Is the Barbour x Norton and Sons St. Kilda, in olive, still available anywhere. thanks for the help.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

Some dude posted he saw it at the Barbour outlet a week or so ago.


Some dude?? That's all I get...I'm crushed cry.gif .



smile.gif Sorry dude.
post #2219 of 2699
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Originally Posted by colabear View Post

@ jimmyhoffa- there is a slim fit bedale that's only available in the Japanee market.

SL Bedale in bark
Image and video hosting by TinyPic

but you can also purchase it @
http://www.endclothing.co.uk/brands/barbour/barbour-japanese-lightweight-sl-bedale-jacket-179526.html

I love this color
post #2220 of 2699

What do you guys think of the Barbour Merchant jacket? I was looking for a harrington not made by barracuta...

 

http://www.barbour.com/All-Collections/Mens/Waxed-Jackets/Merchant-Waxed-Jacket/p/MWX0465OL71L

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