AGAIN, I'M STILL VERY INTERESTED IN AN AW12 TO KI TO HIDCOTE IN SIZE LARGE if anyone has one. Used or new. PM me if you ever get this message.
thanks man - youre very helpful. im trying track down a spey fishing jacket in olive tweed, also from fw12 i believe. also regarding size, did you go tts or size up one? I took a large (im tts L) in the scott bracken jacket and its a comfortable fit with the liner. Dont think I could layer a sweater though. Considering going with an XL in the spey
Oh man. Don't even get me started. You'll have to pardon my language, but I love that ****ing coat. However it drives me absolutely nuts.
I'm a large in the Bracken and in general terms a medium to large, general being say J. Crew shirts in a regular fit. I have the Bracken, with liner, in a Large as well. I'm 5'10", 33 waist and 43" chest. That's slimmed down some since last winter and still slimming down. Problem with any large for me is the sleeve length and sometimes the body length. I'm fine with the fit of the Bracken, but I had the sleeves slightly shortened. I did have it with a shirt and sweater the other day and it was slightly snug, but overall comfortable and didn't feel or look too tight.
As for the tweed Spey, it's a great coat. Tweed on the Bracken fills a bit more "stiff" and dense, but we're talking marginal here, at least with the density. Also, the lining is slightly different as it's synthetic and more "satin" feeling where as the Bracken is cotton. Overall the coat looks great and I won't go into too many details, but I really love the lower pockets because you have side slots where you can slide your hands in and they're HUGE pockets.
As for sizing, I'd love to hear what your experience is in the end. I think it's an impossible fit without alterations, and even then you'd need some sort of master tailor. The large fits me well pretty much everywhere except in the shoulders. I've tried more than one large too. It's snug in the front upper corner of the shoulder. It's actually the seam for the sleeve and the high armhole itself which I can feel where the seam meets the top of the shoulder down to where the seam goes under the arm. I've slimmed down a bit, but still my shoulders are substantial enough that I can feel this and it's bothersome to the extent that I can feel it after I've taken it off. And all this is with a t-shirt on. The rest of it, even pit-to-pit (I think, though it's tough to say since you feel that seam at the armhole), looks and fits fine. Sizing up to the extra large doesn't work though. It may work for you if your'e 6'2" or taller, but there are two problems. The pockets move down slightly and look off. Functionally, the lower pocket is fine for my hands as it's not a reach if you will. However the upper pockets look too low to me. The bigger second problem though is the fit. While it fits fine in the shoulders and the armhole, the body is just way too boxy. Now this is where a tailor could come in. There are two seams on each side (so four seams overall) that IMHO could be altered. You could either of the matching seams (so alter one seam on one side and it's matching seam on other side). Holding it in the mirror this way though throws the look off for me. It either brings the back in too much (if you use the seam slightly to the back) or pulls the pockets too far towards the back (which IMO is the lesser of the two evils) if you alter just the more front seam (which is directly under the pit). So I would recommend altering both seams on each side (all four seams) if one decides to go this route. JUST NOTE that if you alter any of the seams, there is a bottom cord pull at the very bottom of the coat that would have to be cut. Also, the amazing thing about the XL is that the sleeve length still works.
I wish you the best of luck with the coat if you get one. I'm selling my large for sure if your'e interested. You can just PM me. Anyway, it's one of the best To Ki To's I own or have seen in terms of the look of the coat. Just a shame that the fit is IMHO off. It's funny too because sooo many people are all about the Sport jacket/Commander when AW12 To Ki To had so many great coats. Don't get me wrong, I like the Bond jacket (though I think it's be just like the tweed Spey in terms of fitting it), but plenty of others there to choose from. The sweater/sweater jackets were great as well. The Hudson half zip. I think you might find one of those here or there.