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post #1111 of 2480
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Originally Posted by DC Office Hack View Post

About my new Beaufort...
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So, I scored a Beaufort on Ebay for a good price. NWT. I bought my suit coat size (42). I don't know why I didn't grasp this when I tried these things on at Orvis a month ago, but at 42, the thing is too big and too long. I had talked myself into buying that size after reading all the related threads here and AAAC and saw that a) they're supposed to be big, and b) it's designed to be layered over tons of stuff, including sport coats. Indeed, if I put it over my sportcoat, it covers the sportcoat just so, with maybe an inch or two surplus. And its roomy enough for me to wear the coat WITH a liner AND a big sweater.
Before buying one's suit size, one really needs to ask oneself if one really intends or needs to wear the thing with a sportcoat. I often wear sportcoats and thus will be doing so often, but I don't need it for that purpose since I already have a nice wool top coat and trench coat w/ liner. What I should have kept in mind is that for the specific purpose I needed this for...those times in which the top coat and trench coat would have been too dressy...I was unlikely to be wearing a sport coat as well. In brief, if I had so much as gone down even to just a 40, I think I'd be a lot happier with the Beaufort without having to sacrifice any of the functionality.
The 42"'s not terrible. It's just not as perfect as I would like a garment to be when I bought the garment to a large degree because of its vaunted longevity.

 


...The 42"'s not terrible. It's just not as perfect as I would like a garment to be...

 

Another insight: once again I find that saving money short term does not pay. Had I bought the coat at Orvis (and paid the extra sum), I might have the ability to return it. Over time, that extra sum would quickly become meaningless.

 

 

Very well said. I recently picked up a Beaufort in my suit size as well, 44. I picked it up at the Milford, NH outlet so it was very well priced. In the past few weeks of wearing it, I've come to the exact same conclusion as you...but didn't want to admit it out loud smile.gif.

 

I do like it very much but as you said, it's not as perfect as I wanted it to be.

 

With that said, you may very well be able to recoup your investment by re-selling it here or back at ebay. I've been considering that myself.

post #1112 of 2480
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Originally Posted by DC Office Hack View Post

About my new Beaufort.
So, I scored a Beaufort on Ebay for a good price. NWT. I bought my suit coat size (42). I don't know why I didn't grasp this when I tried these things on at Orvis a month ago, but at 42, the thing is too big and too long. I had talked myself into buying that size after reading all the related threads here and AAAC and saw that a) they're supposed to be big, and b) it's designed to be layered over tons of stuff, including sport coats. Indeed, if I put it over my sportcoat, it covers the sportcoat just so, with maybe an inch or two surplus. And its roomy enough for me to wear the coat WITH a liner AND a big sweater.
Before buying one's suit size, one really needs to ask oneself if one really intends or needs to wear the thing with a sportcoat. I often wear sportcoats and thus will be doing so often, but I don't need it for that purpose since I already have a nice wool top coat and trench coat w/ liner. What I should have kept in mind is that for the specific purpose I needed this for...those times in which the top coat and trench coat would have been too dressy...I was unlikely to be wearing a sport coat as well. In brief, if I had so much as gone down even to just a 40, I think I'd be a lot happier with the Beaufort without having to sacrifice any of the functionality.
The 42"'s not terrible. It's just not as perfect as I would like a garment to be when I bought the garment to a large degree because of its vaunted longevity.
Another insight: once again I find that saving money short term does not pay. Had I bought the coat at Orvis (and paid the extra sum), I might have the ability to return it. Over time, that extra sum would quickly become meaningless.

Depending on size/color/price, may be interested in relieving you of the coat. PM me.
post #1113 of 2480
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post


Very well said. I recently picked up a Beaufort in my suit size as well, 44. I picked it up at the Milford, NH outlet so it was very well priced. In the past few weeks of wearing it, I've come to the exact same conclusion as you...but didn't want to admit it out loud smile.gif .

I do like it very much but as you said, it's not as perfect as I wanted it to be.

With that said, you may very well be able to recoup your investment by re-selling it here or back at ebay. I've been considering that myself.

Here's to make you guys feel better...

I used to be a suit size 42. After losing weight, I am now a 39 or 40 depending on the style or maker. I bought a Bedale 40 when I was size 42.

After the weight loss, I thought I should get a new Bedale in size 38. But after trying it on in store and comparing it to my 40, I soon realized that the 38 did not allow me to layer and I would probably only wear a shirt underneath in order not to feel restrictive.

So now I stop looking at size 38 longingly.... satisfied.gif
post #1114 of 2480
The cut of the jacket is what turns people off and makes them go for the smaller size. I dont think the jacket is made to fit super tight and slim. I could have bought a 36, but the 38 was more comfortable everywhere other then the waist. If I could have the sides taken in a bit, it may be more flattering.
post #1115 of 2480
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Depending on size/color/price, may be interested in relieving you of the coat. PM me.

Thanks. That wasn't at all my objective when I posted. Let me think about it before attempting to unload it. I put way too much energy into the search for a coat as it is that I hate to re-open the search.
post #1116 of 2480
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Originally Posted by OmniscientCause View Post

The cut of the jacket is what turns people off and makes them go for the smaller size. I dont think the jacket is made to fit super tight and slim. I could have bought a 36, but the 38 was more comfortable everywhere other then the waist. If I could have the sides taken in a bit, it may be more flattering.

It certainly is comfortable, being so baggy and all. No binding, that's for sure.
post #1117 of 2480
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Originally Posted by DC Office Hack View Post


It certainly is comfortable, being so baggy and all. No binding, that's for sure.

 

I also have a Sapper, the 4oz Sylkoil, flyweight version. I bought that in an XL and it fits great. I like that it has elastic drawstrings so you can give it some shape. In the end, I don't have the energy to sell and get another. I can certainly live with the larger size.

post #1118 of 2480
Could y'all recommend a liner? I see two, maybe three different kinds available. Which is the warmest? The most practical? And how does sizing work for them?
post #1119 of 2480
I've been wanting to hit Orvis to check things out and thought that post-Christmas would be a good time to see if they have anything on sale.

No good sales unless you are looking for a short international in orange for $280, but boy am I glad that I swung by. I discovered that the small polarquilt liner is not going to work for me at all and neither is the pile liner in 36. The polarquilt liner was tough to even bring the two sides together to zip up and the 36 in the pile liner was the same way. There is no way I could fit a sportscoat underneath either of those. Sorry about the crappy phone pics. After this visit I am not sure if I would wear the polarquilt liner by itself either.

I also had a chance to see the Filson Oregon Trail Jacket in person. I've been wanting to get a field jacket and this is almost perfect for me. It's not lined and has no epaulets. The only things I don't love about it is that it has no zipper and the hood connects with buttons rather than snaps. I may try to change that if I do get it in the future.

Beaufort with polarquilt liner

Polarquilt liner in medium

Pile liner in 36
post #1120 of 2480
Here are some fit pics of my 42 Beaufort. The question is, keep it or go for maybe a 40?

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post #1121 of 2480
Got the ToKiTo tweed jacket for winter. Fantastic piece but feels a bit big. Any options for tailoring it?

post #1122 of 2480
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Originally Posted by DC Office Hack View Post

Here are some fit pics of my 42 Beaufort. The question is, keep it or go for maybe a 40?

Id size down...looks pretty big on you.
post #1123 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Imyouricecreamman View Post

Got the ToKiTo tweed jacket for winter. Fantastic piece but feels a bit big. Any options for tailoring it?

Looks ok to me, sort of the way I'd want my Beaufort to fit, assuming you intend to do some layering underneath. If anything, perhaps shorten the sleeves just a bit?

Otherwise, that's one badass jacket. The bad news is that it almost calls for upgrading your pants and hat. Denim and an orange watch cap don't quite cut it with such a spiffy garment. What would Bond wear with that? Wool flannel, probably, or at the very least, cords.
post #1124 of 2480
I'd say it's too big, re: Beufort. Even sizing down the sleeves should be fine. I think you've missized.

ToKiTo looks good though.
post #1125 of 2480
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Originally Posted by DC Office Hack View Post

Looks ok to me, sort of the way I'd want my Beaufort to fit, assuming you intend to do some layering underneath. If anything, perhaps shorten the sleeves just a bit?
Otherwise, that's one badass jacket. The bad news is that it almost calls for upgrading your pants and hat. Denim and an orange watch cap don't quite cut it with such a spiffy garment. What would Bond wear with that? Wool flannel, probably, or at the very least, cords.

Thanks! It really is impressive and the sleeves are the part that's bothering me the most so I'll look into that smile.gif I agree that this is not the best look for this jacket, but I don't have anything yet that matches it properly biggrin.gif Any suggestions for individual pieces that might work?

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