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post #31 of 79
I would second Original Joes as well. Not to be left out is that it is in close proximity to a true San Francisco landmark... Mitchell Brothers. THe Mitchell Brothers Theater is perhaps the finest adult club in the US and one of the oldest. It may not have the absolutly best looking dancers, but from what I hear, they are extremely umm friendly. It really is worth a visit as it is a true historical landmark. I don't know if I have been since I was 18 or so, but it is not to be missed if you have not been.
post #32 of 79
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Originally Posted by iammatt
I would second Original Joes as well. Not to be left out is that it is in close proximity to a true San Francisco landmark... Mitchell Brothers. THe Mitchell Brothers Theater is perhaps the finest adult club in the US and one of the oldest. It may not have the absolutly best looking dancers, but from what I hear, they are extremely umm friendly. It really is worth a visit as it is a true historical landmark. I don't know if I have been since I was 18 or so, but it is not to be missed if you have not been.

When you said "close proximity to a true San Francisco landmark" I thought you were going to tell Tokyo Slim about Glide Memorial Methodist Church!

I've never heard of those Mitchell Brothers fellows!

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post #33 of 79
The drive from SF to Monterey, in perfect circumstances (no traffic, breaking all the laws, miraculously not pulled over) is at least two hours. To Santa Cruz, at least 1:15.

Zachary's is Chicago style deep dish pizza. I used to swear by it. Since moving east, I have become more a partisan of the NY style thin crust. Zach's is still the best for what it is, but I can see why people prefer other styles.

The best burger in the Bay Area is the Smokehouse, a horrible dive on the Berkeley/Oakland line.
post #34 of 79
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I will be arriving at SJC (San Jose) on December 19th around 8:30 am and leaving from SJC on December 27th at 6:30am.

Have you, ah, ridden Amtrak before?

For pizza I'd second Zachary's. Really no great thin crust in the Bay Area.

For burgers I think Barney's is pretty good- albeit somewhat yuppie. One in the Marina, one on Solano in Albany, and one in Montclair (Oakland Hills- my old digs).

IMO other than Chez Panisse there really isn't any good food in Berkeley. And I must've hit them on a bad night cuz I wasn't impressed.

Surprised no one's mentioned the 17 mile drive. This is a must.

Oh yeah- Matt's right on the Mitchell Bros. theatre. You might want to bring a bit of cash though (not that I'd know or anything.)
post #35 of 79
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Have you, ah, ridden Amtrak before?

No Amtrak... I am flying.
post #36 of 79
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No Amtrak... I am flying.

Thank God...

I didn't read thread correctly.
post #37 of 79
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Ok this is the official word:

I will be in SF on the 19th, 20th, and 21st, then head down to Monterey to see my shark at the Aquarium and Mnemonic at DLI. Then hang out wherever while staying in Monterey the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, and 26th. Fly home the 27th.

Oh, and I hate to break it to you guys, but without a job, I will be fiscally unable to visit any um... dancing theaters...

post #38 of 79
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
Ok this is the official word:

I will be in SF on the 19th, 20th, and 21st, then head down to Monterey to see my shark at the Aquarium and Mnemonic at DLI. Then hang out wherever while staying in Monterey the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, and 26th. Fly home the 27th.

Oh, and I hate to break it to you guys, but without a job, I will be fiscally unable to visit any um... dancing theaters...


Voltaire advises us that in matters of opinion, there can be no dispute.

The Manton-nominated SmokeHouse is a “picnic benches” kind of indoor-outdoor place all the way over in Berkeley and just a little too much on the greasy side for some MTM and bespoke people. It is, however, a perennial RTW student favorite and priced according to RTW student budgets. I haven’t had a SmokeHouse hamburger since around 1968 or so.

As for “best”, both iammatt and Manton have weighed-in with that word. There are three quite distinct hamburgers and atmospheres amongst Mo’s, SmokeHouse, and Original Joe’s. Maybe you should try all three since you are there for three days!

If I were to remark on the BEST hamburger in San Francisco, well . . . the best I ever had was done-up for me at the old Grison’s out on Van Ness in the vicinity of Pacific Heights. Grison’s is long gone and some so-called steak and prime rib joint is operating there.

Speaking of joints . . . I am irresistibly drawn to Tommy’s Joynt on Van Ness Ave. at Geary Blvd. Some people deride it as a tourist place. Forget that! More San Franciscan’s eat there than tourists. The place has been operating on the same spot for more than a hundred years. It’s a dark and filled with memorabilia, beer, and lots more patina than any one of sysdoc’s John Lobb shoes.

Tommy’s Joynt is an inexpensive Bavarian Hof Brau style place. Grab a tray and walk the hot table line while telling the cook what sandwich or cuts of roasted turkey, ham, beef, corned beef, turkey legs, brisket and so forth you want with your potatoes, gravy, salad, bread, vegetables, and dessert. They pile too much of everything onto your plates. Find a seat either at the bar or one of the tables and order some beer from your waitress. Their huge selection of draft and bottled beer is impressive by almost anyone’s standards. It’s nearly impossible to eat in silence. Someone will start-up a conversation with you.

Were I to be alone in San Francisco for Christmas dinner, I think I would head to Tommy’s Joynt rather than one of the China Town eateries. Tommy’s Joynt is certainly more convivial than anything I know of in China Town.

If not Tommy’s Joynt or China Town, there is always Christmas dinner at Glide Memorial Methodist church since you are not going to visit the nearby Mitchell Brothers' dancing theater that I’ve never heard of! Have a fun and safe trip!!
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post #39 of 79
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Originally Posted by Full Canvas
The Manton-nominated SmokeHouse is a "picnic benches" kind of indoor-outdoor place all the way over in Berkeley and just a little too much on the greasy side for some MTM and bespoke people. It is, however, a perennial RTW student favorite and priced according to RTW student budgets. I haven't had a SmokeHouse hamburger since around 1968 or so.

This sounds awesome... I am going to have to check it out.

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As for "best", both iammatt and Manton have weighed-in with that word. There are three quite distinct hamburgers and atmospheres amongst Mo's, SmokeHouse, and Original Joe's. Maybe you should try all three since you are there for three days!

Hell, I might hit them in one day. I eat like a garbage disposal.

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If I were to remark on the BEST hamburger in San Francisco, well . . . the best I ever had was done-up for me at the old Grison's out on Van Ness in the vicinity of Pacific Heights. Grison's is long gone and some so-called steak and prime rib joint is operating there.

Well that aint much help...

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Speaking of joints . . . I am irresistibly drawn to Tommy's Joynt on Van Ness Ave. at Geary Blvd. Some people deride it as a tourist place. Forget that! More San Franciscan's eat there than tourists. The place has been operating on the same spot for more than a hundred years. It's a dark and filled memorabilia, beer, and more patina than any one of sysdoc's John Lobb shoes.

Tommy's Joynt is an inexpensive Bavarian Hof Brau style place. Grab a tray and walk the hot table line while telling the cook what sandwich or cuts of roasted turkey, ham, beef, corned beef, turkey legs, brisket and so forth you want with your potatoes, gravy, salad, bread, vegetables, and dessert. They pile too much of everything onto your plates. Find a seat either at the bar or one of the tables and order some beer from your waitress. Their huge selection of draft and bottled beer is impressive by almost anyone's standards. It's nearly impossible to eat in silence. Someone will start-up a conversation with you.

Were I to be alone in San Francisco for Christmas dinner, I think I would head to Tommy's Joynt rather than one of the China Town eateries. Tommy's Joynt is certainly more convivial than anything I know of in China Town.

This also sounds like an outstanding place... Are you sure they are open on Christmas Eve/Day? Regardless, I'm going to check it out. Also - Christmas dinner will most likely be shared by a vegetarian, and two or three Japanese people - which is why I thought that maybe Chinatown would be a good compromise.

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If not Tommy's Joynt or China Town, there is always Christmas dinner at Glide Memorial Methodist church since you are not going to visit the dancing theater that I've never heard of! Have fun and safe trip!!

I dunno man, I appreciate the invite, but Christmas dinner at a church is really not my style.

I'll try to have fun, and as for safe? We'll see...
post #40 of 79
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
I dunno man, I appreciate the invite, but Christmas dinner at a church is really not my style.

It is a little joke for those that know San Francisco fairly well. I don't believe any of the Forum members would elect to have Christmas dinner at Glide Memorial.
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post #41 of 79
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Originally Posted by Full Canvas
It is a little joke for those that know San Francisco fairly well. I don't believe any of the Forum members would elect to have Christmas dinner at Glide Memorial.
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post #42 of 79
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
Also - Christmas dinner will most likely be shared by a vegetarian, and two or three Japanese people - which is why I thought that maybe Chinatown would be a good compromise.

If that's the case, maybe you should head to the little Tokyo district. It is only a few minutes west of Tommy's Joynt on Geary Bolevard. However, I cannot recommend any of that district's restaurants due to my inexperience.

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post #43 of 79
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Originally Posted by Full Canvas
If that's the case, maybe you should head to the little Tokyo district. It is only a few minutes west of Tommy's Joynt on Geary Bolevard. However, I cannot recommend any of that district's restaurants due to my inexperience. ________________________________
They don't want to eat Japanese food, silly! They just left there!
post #44 of 79
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Originally Posted by Full Canvas
Voltaire advises us that in matters of opinion, there can be no dispute.

The Manton-nominated SmokeHouse is a "picnic benches" kind of indoor-outdoor place all the way over in Berkeley and just a little too much on the greasy side for some MTM and bespoke people. It is, however, a perennial RTW student favorite and priced according to RTW student budgets. I haven't had a SmokeHouse hamburger since around 1968 or so.

I have never been, but it sounds great. Berkeley, for all of its weirdness, is the only place where you can find certain things and is actually a pretty great town.

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Speaking of joints . . . I am irresistibly drawn to Tommy's Joynt on Van Ness Ave. at Geary Blvd. Some people deride it as a tourist place. Forget that! More San Franciscan's eat there than tourists. The place has been operating on the same spot for more than a hundred years. It's a dark and filled with memorabilia, beer, and lots more patina than any one of sysdoc's John Lobb shoes.

Tommy's Joynt is an inexpensive Bavarian Hof Brau style place. Grab a tray and walk the hot table line while telling the cook what sandwich or cuts of roasted turkey, ham, beef, corned beef, turkey legs, brisket and so forth you want with your potatoes, gravy, salad, bread, vegetables, and dessert. They pile too much of everything onto your plates. Find a seat either at the bar or one of the tables and order some beer from your waitress. Their huge selection of draft and bottled beer is impressive by almost anyone's standards. It's nearly impossible to eat in silence. Someone will start-up a conversation with you.

I remember goint to Tommy's Joynt as a kid after 49er games. The food is reasonably good and will certainly fill you up, the beer is great and, as FC says, the people are always super friendly. It is not a place that I would think to go very often, but my wife gets the craving a few times a year and we always have a great time when we go. You will definitely find a mix of old-timers, people from San Francisco like me who have memories from childhood and tourists. The sliced meats and buffalo chili are especially good. If you go on a Sunday or Monday night it is a great place to watch a football game with good company.

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If not Tommy's Joynt or China Town, there is always Christmas dinner at Glide Memorial Methodist church since you are not going to visit the nearby Mitchell Brothers' dancing theater that I've never heard of! Have a fun and safe trip!!

If you want to pick up on easy San Francisco girls, you just have to go to a Glide service on a Sunday. After they have spent an hour feeling like good hippys for being near the "real people" at Glide, they are ready for good old fashioned free lovin', not like Mitchell Brothers where the love is always available, but never free... or so I have heard.
post #45 of 79
Well, if you get bored any of those days I live in monterey, and I have a big screen and a X-box 360, lol. I'm currently out of a job and have nothin but time so if you need anything let me know.
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