Des Merrion status or whereabouts?

Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley

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http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/news/...l/article.html

I was mistaken - he was illegaly importing a Ruger .22, but was also charged with owning a sawn-off shotgun.

I have nothing against Des, and I'm sure he's an ok guy and a competant tailor. But lets not pretend that he was blameless, and an innocent victim of a silly and archaic government law.

Don't know what he is. The Ruger .22 I heard was missing pieces so it didn't work. What legal rights does a government have? And what are not rights that government legally can not have? What rights to people have and not have over other people? These are fair questions.

There are evil people in this world and governments can not always be there to protect. Is it right for government to take away your own protection when it can't be there to protect you? The law of logic says that government or the people can not take away your right to protect your self when you are innocent and in need of protection. Since government can not know when it can not protect you, then they can not prevent you from owning guns that will do the job. Logic says that it is illegal for government to prevent you from protecting yourself with a gun when government can not protect you. Therefore government has no right to prevent you from owning the guns you need to protect yourself and family. Your silliness is dangerous. Look at all those thousands of prostitutes on the internet where there 3 week job ends with them dead. None of them have faith in government anymore. I think the logic above proves you are wrong and the fact of all of those prostitutes proves you deadly wrong and that your silliness is full of murder and has killed more people than gun owners. In one week how many young in the prime of life will be dead from pimps? And how many will be dead from citizens gun owners? Clearly thousands of people are not murdered every day from guns. What is government doing about pimps? Want to know - the answer is almost nothing. The proof of that is look at all the thousands of websites. Even in your own neighborhood there probably are pimps. And your afraid of guns when your wife and daughter should be caring one. It is amazing how backwards educated people can become.

Originally Posted by greger

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Don't know what he is. The Ruger .22 I heard was missing pieces so it didn't work. What legal rights does a government have? And what are not rights that government legally can not have? What rights to people have and not have over other people? These are fair questions. There are evil people in this world and governments can not always be there to protect. Is it right for government to take away your own protection when it can't be there to protect you? The law of logic says that government or the people can not take away your right to protect your self when you are innocent and in need of protection. Since government can not know when it can not protect you, then they can not prevent you from owning guns that will do the job. Logic says that it is illegal for government to prevent you from protecting yourself with a gun when government can not protect you. Therefore government has no right to prevent you from owning the guns you need to protect yourself and family. Your silliness is dangerous. Look at all those thousands of prostitutes on the internet where there 3 week job ends with them dead. None of them have faith in government anymore. I think the logic above proves you are wrong and the fact of all of those prostitutes proves you deadly wrong and that your silliness is full of murder and has killed more people than gun owners. In one week how many young in the prime of life will be dead from pimps? And how many will be dead from citizens gun owners? Clearly thousands of people are not murdered every day from guns. What is government doing about pimps? Want to know - the answer is almost nothing. The proof of that is look at all the thousands of websites. Even in your own neighborhood there probably are pimps. And your afraid of guns when your wife and daughter should be caring one. It is amazing how backwards educated people can become.
Whoa whoa whoa there. You sure are concerned about pimps. You want to talk about it?

^^ Are you drunk, greger? On drugs? Geez!

Was he selling these guns on the black market or something? Whats the big deal if the guy kept a shotgun in his house?

All ready talked about it.

unfortunately, there is to much truth in it.

There are more things to be concerned about than guns, and government needs to put money to getting rid of real crimes and not waste our money on pretend crimes.

It seems like so many "men" are afraid of guns in Europe anymore. Don't they have real men over there, anymore?

Originally Posted by greger

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All ready talked about it. unfortunately, there is to much truth in it. There are more things to be concerned about than guns, and government needs to put money to getting rid of real crimes and not waste our money on pretend crimes. It seems like so many "men" are afraid of guns in Europe anymore. Don't they have real men over there, anymore?
The government needs to spend money on grammar and cohesiveness of thought. Pimps are using guns to spend my government money on social security! Aaaaggghhhh, the horror! Bullwinkle marshmallow peeps with guns!!!! Aaarrghhh. Are there any real men in Europe who don't pimp slap their whores? Or are they so unmanly that they must use a gun, anymore?

Originally Posted by sonlegoman

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The government needs to spend money on grammar and cohesiveness of thought. Pimps are using guns to spend my government money on social security! Aaaaggghhhh, the horror! Bullwinkle marshmallow peeps with guns!!!! Aaarrghhh. Are there any real men in Europe who don't pimp slap their whores? Or are they so unmanly that they must use a gun, anymore?

Pimps use knives and garbage trucks for the end. They don't need guns, though some of them have them. How many people who own pit bulls are not serious criminals? About one percent?

Government money wouldn't help my grammar for anything, you'd be losing money for that.

So, you going to have Des make you a suit or coat or trousers or weskit?

Bullwinkle probably likes marshmallows. But I doubt he peeps with guns.

Presumably it is not such a good idea to delay paying Des for work done then...

Originally Posted by greger

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All ready talked about it.

unfortunately, there is to much truth in it.

There are more things to be concerned about than guns, and government needs to put money to getting rid of real crimes and not waste our money on pretend crimes.

It seems like so many "men" are afraid of guns in Europe anymore. Don't they have real men over there, anymore?

It takes a real man to own a gun does it. Sensible government realised that it serves not purpose for the average person to be owning Guns, only in the Gun mad U.S do they think that its necessary. Having a gun makes it too easy to kill people, hence the idiots need protection from themselves just like you put the medicine cabinet out of the reach of children

I hope now that Congress woman Giffords may think twice before she openly backs gun ownership

Originally Posted by jamesbond

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Was he selling these guns on the black market or something? Whats the big deal if the guy kept a shotgun in his house?

Because you can't do that in the UK unless you own farmland and have a very good reason for having it, such as your crops are being eaten or spolit from pests. Saying you want one to blow a burglers head off won't work.

Originally Posted by cdmoore1855

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Because you can't do that in the UK unless you own farmland and have a very good reason for having it, such as your crops are being eaten or spolit from pests. Saying you want one to blow a burglers head off won't work.

But what happens if you want to ***** slap Greger? Doesn't the government understand you need a shotgun to do it right?

Whatever Greger may think, the UK has laws which strictly regulate the ownership of guns. They are a very sesnible way of managing society and it is NOT customary for the British to feel the necessity of shooting pople in defence.

America has little or no control over guns becuase of its Constitution and a Gun Lobby that does not in the least care about the misuse of fire arms. How is the Gifford woman?

Merrion possessed several weapons which were of no earthly use to him and totally lacking in justfication in the UK and had they fallen into the wrong hands used for creating mayhem etc. Maybe he had some thoughts. He had been granted Fire arm licence presumably for sporting shooting so his freedom in that resepct was not restricted.

He thoroughly deserved all that came to him.

Originally Posted by greger

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All ready talked about it.

unfortunately, there is to much truth in it.

There are more things to be concerned about than guns, and government needs to put money to getting rid of real crimes and not waste our money on pretend crimes.

It seems like so many "men" are afraid of guns in Europe anymore. Don't they have real men over there, anymore?

They also don't have gangs shooting each others every night in their mean streets...

If nobody has guns , the world will be a safer place...

You only need guns if the other guys have them...

If you're a real man , you don't need a gun..

Oh man, so much gold! What to sig?

Originally Posted by greger

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What rights to people have and not have over other people? These are fair questions.

Originally Posted by greger

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Your silliness is dangerous.

Originally Posted by greger

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I think the logic above proves you are wrong and the fact of all of those prostitutes proves you deadly wrong and that your silliness is full of murder and has killed more people than gun owners.

Originally Posted by greger

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your silliness is full of murder
(My favourite, probably.)

Originally Posted by greger

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In one week how many young in the prime of life will be dead from pimps? And how many will be dead from citizens gun owners? Clearly thousands of people are not murdered every day from guns. What is government doing about pimps?

Originally Posted by greger

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Even in your own neighborhood there probably are pimps.

I don't understand that some of you actually try to have a meaningful debate with this guy. He's arguing with the laws of logic on his side, after all.

So now that this is all cleared up, where is Carlo Franco?