Originally Posted by cwh812
This. 4 of my 5 Leffot purchases have been MTO. The other I went in to order MTO and he happened to have it in stock in my size. I was amazed.
No, it should NOT be amazing to have a bootmaker stock a shoe in your size, unless, of course, you have a way out abnormal size.
It is amazing that the consumer has not DEMANDED shoes in the normal sizes from these so called "prestigious" shoe makers.
What is actually amazing is how bootmakers have become encouraged to stock virtually nothing in the knowledge that ignorant consumers are willing to pay a massive premium merely for the benefit of buying a shoe which fits. Now THAT is what is amazing.
This is especially so when you are already paying one heck of a premium for a shoe in the first instance.
If you buy a $10.00 special from the K-Mart you can expect to have nothing in your size, but not a premium shoe costing over $1000.00 per pair.
I have worn Edward Green since my first day at school way back in the 1960's and this habit of extorting extra money from clients for MTO fees simply for the benefit of a shoe which fits is a reasonably new development and a habit which seems peculiar to English shoemakers.
Pick up a telephone and speak with Vass in Hungary and you will find the man too honest and much too embarrassed to charge a premium to make a shoe which actually fits you. Why would this be amazing?
I would be embarrassed too.
If the English shoe industry continues this practice people will move over to Swiss Ballys, or Vass or other makes of shoes which do not participate in this dodgy business practice.
Hell, even good old home grown Alden and AE would never participate in this sort of rubbish, unless, of course, dumb consumers start telling theese suppliers that it is ..........."amazing" to find shoes for sale in their size........ you go figure that one out.
But it is not just Edward Green, this problem seems to be typical of English shoe trade.
Telephone Christopher Dubon for John Lobb of Paris +33 1 4544-9577 and you will find John Lobb of Paris is more than happy to manufacture ANY shoe, past models, current models, any size, color or shape of your choice BUT......... if you ring the manager of their London store in Jermyn street you get through to an arrogant prick with an accent exactly the same as Herr Goebbels who will tell you to either buy what extremely limited stock is in his understocked store or to pay a massive premium for MTO. The dumb ones fall for it every time, the rest of us go elsewhere.
For example you could telephone Jorge for John lobb in Spain who will offer to sell you ANY John Lobb shoe you want in any size or color - no extra fee, just like the Paris store.
Why the hell would you want to get screwed by the English shoemakers when you can get a fair deal from the French or Spanish?
I am told the German, Dutch, Italian and even Arab stores are the same.
So English speaking consumers put up with a lot more crap than French or Spanish consumers, so we get an extra royal screwing from the shoe manufacturers just for being so downright dumb.
For a good deal on a staple Edward Green here is the place to go -http://www.edwardsofmanchester.co.uk...s/edward-green
and note how you get a much better deal PLUS less 20% (EU VAT) PLUS a free $35.00 contribution to shipping. Just under $800.00 for a pair of shoes sold for almost twice that price in USA! - LOOK at the price of those Galway boots after VAT!!!! - Speak to Mark or order directly on line.
Another good place to shop is Upper shoes in France, speak with Geraldine or Boris in Lyons - http://www.upper-shoes.com/chaussure...-catalogue.htm
Or just go directly to Christopher Gumbs in EG Jermyn street tel : +44 (0) 20 7839-0202
As consumers we need to send the message back to the English producers that if they want to charge these premium prices, fine, but then they should supply the conveneince of knowing you can purchase a shoe in your size and in a reasonable choice of leathers and colors without the extortionist premiums and 14 week wait for a shoe which actually fits.
Hell, if a small high quality one man bootmaker in Hungary can do it, what the hell is the excuse of a huge manufacturer in UK?
Support the bootmaker who best supports you - if they don't stock your size don't support them.