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post #46 of 66
I really like Leffot's makeups with Alden but damn, there must be a secret code, ultra small batches, or something else to explain why they always seem to sell out so quickly..
post #47 of 66
I've been saying that forever. It's ridiculous. Just makes me want to buy Ryder. At least they're in stock.
post #48 of 66
There is a reason I try and stay out of this store. Its full of win (and trouble)
post #49 of 66
Leffot is on my "must visit" with every NYC visit and it is always a highlight for us, and we visit at least four times a year.

BUT, in the 5 years I have visited them I have not bought a single shoe because they NEVER have my size or specific colour.

So-o-o-o-o painful to walk out of a store WANTING something so bad you even consider buying a pair too big or too small just to scratch the itch.

If Edward Greens don't fit, well then they simply aren't Edward Greens any more are they?

Great store, great atmosphere and a great wealth of knowledge to draw down on, from shoe manufacturers down to simply how to best get a shoe cleaned and polished.

I have visited the store at least 25 times and there have always been at least 4 or 5 shoes I have wanted to buy, but never has there been a single pair in 9 E and 9.5 D is always too long.

Perhaps next time I visit them they might have a pair in my size!!
post #50 of 66
^Special order.
post #51 of 66
I am glad I found this thread.
My GF and I are heading to NYC in Sept and I will definitely be heading over to see Steve and his shoes.

I hope he will have the shoes I want and in my sizes........... time to make room on the credit card.
post #52 of 66
I have the opposite problem. I live in NYC and pop in every few months. 3 out of 5 times I walk out with a shoe because...they just happened to have it in my size. Just random luck.
post #53 of 66
I probably visit Steven twice a month or so just to say hi and see what's cooking. I feel that most people who come in just get MTO stuff. People who buy on the spot are usually those who know what they want when they come in and want a staple, like a longwing, or a EG chelsea, for example.
post #54 of 66
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post
I probably visit Steven twice a month or so just to say hi and see what's cooking. I feel that most people who come in just get MTO stuff. People who buy on the spot are usually those who know what they want when they come in and want a staple, like a longwing, or a EG chelsea, for example.

This. 4 of my 5 Leffot purchases have been MTO. The other I went in to order MTO and he happened to have it in stock in my size. I was amazed.
post #55 of 66
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This. 4 of my 5 Leffot purchases have been MTO. The other I went in to order MTO and he happened to have it in stock in my size. I was amazed.

No, it should NOT be amazing to have a bootmaker stock a shoe in your size, unless, of course, you have a way out abnormal size.

It is amazing that the consumer has not DEMANDED shoes in the normal sizes from these so called "prestigious" shoe makers.

What is actually amazing is how bootmakers have become encouraged to stock virtually nothing in the knowledge that ignorant consumers are willing to pay a massive premium merely for the benefit of buying a shoe which fits. Now THAT is what is amazing.

This is especially so when you are already paying one heck of a premium for a shoe in the first instance.

If you buy a $10.00 special from the K-Mart you can expect to have nothing in your size, but not a premium shoe costing over $1000.00 per pair.

I have worn Edward Green since my first day at school way back in the 1960's and this habit of extorting extra money from clients for MTO fees simply for the benefit of a shoe which fits is a reasonably new development and a habit which seems peculiar to English shoemakers.

Pick up a telephone and speak with Vass in Hungary and you will find the man too honest and much too embarrassed to charge a premium to make a shoe which actually fits you. Why would this be amazing?

I would be embarrassed too.

If the English shoe industry continues this practice people will move over to Swiss Ballys, or Vass or other makes of shoes which do not participate in this dodgy business practice.

Hell, even good old home grown Alden and AE would never participate in this sort of rubbish, unless, of course, dumb consumers start telling theese suppliers that it is ..........."amazing" to find shoes for sale in their size........ you go figure that one out.

But it is not just Edward Green, this problem seems to be typical of English shoe trade.

Telephone Christopher Dubon for John Lobb of Paris +33 1 4544-9577 and you will find John Lobb of Paris is more than happy to manufacture ANY shoe, past models, current models, any size, color or shape of your choice BUT......... if you ring the manager of their London store in Jermyn street you get through to an arrogant prick with an accent exactly the same as Herr Goebbels who will tell you to either buy what extremely limited stock is in his understocked store or to pay a massive premium for MTO. The dumb ones fall for it every time, the rest of us go elsewhere.

For example you could telephone Jorge for John lobb in Spain who will offer to sell you ANY John Lobb shoe you want in any size or color - no extra fee, just like the Paris store.

Why the hell would you want to get screwed by the English shoemakers when you can get a fair deal from the French or Spanish?

I am told the German, Dutch, Italian and even Arab stores are the same.

So English speaking consumers put up with a lot more crap than French or Spanish consumers, so we get an extra royal screwing from the shoe manufacturers just for being so downright dumb.

For a good deal on a staple Edward Green here is the place to go -

http://www.edwardsofmanchester.co.uk...s/edward-green

and note how you get a much better deal PLUS less 20% (EU VAT) PLUS a free $35.00 contribution to shipping. Just under $800.00 for a pair of shoes sold for almost twice that price in USA! - LOOK at the price of those Galway boots after VAT!!!! - Speak to Mark or order directly on line.

Another good place to shop is Upper shoes in France, speak with Geraldine or Boris in Lyons - http://www.upper-shoes.com/chaussure...-catalogue.htm .

Or just go directly to Christopher Gumbs in EG Jermyn street tel : +44 (0) 20 7839-0202

As consumers we need to send the message back to the English producers that if they want to charge these premium prices, fine, but then they should supply the conveneince of knowing you can purchase a shoe in your size and in a reasonable choice of leathers and colors without the extortionist premiums and 14 week wait for a shoe which actually fits.

Hell, if a small high quality one man bootmaker in Hungary can do it, what the hell is the excuse of a huge manufacturer in UK?

Support the bootmaker who best supports you - if they don't stock your size don't support them.
post #56 of 66
Speaking of John Lobb Paris, here is a deal recently e-mailed to me - every month ther eis a special deal.

Remember, as a USA consumer you are entitled to a deduction of the European VAT.

Here is a copy of the e-mail:-



Cher Monsieur, Cher Client,

La semaine consacrée aux commandes spéciales sans surcoût commence mercredi 8 juin et finira une semaine plus tard, le 15 juin.

Les derby sous toutes leurs formes seront à l'honneur ce mois ci !

J'ai déjà reçu de nombreuses demandes d'informations concernant ces rendez vous thématiques pour 2011 et je vous joins donc quelques photos de derby que nous sommes en mesure de réaliser.

Je vous rappelle que vous pouvez commander le modèle de votre choix et le personnaliser comme vous l'entendez : semelle, peausserie, largeur, surpiqûres de couleurs etc.

Le prix est unique et sans surcharge pour les modèles suivant ce mois ci :
ARIMA
BARAL
BEAUFORT
BEESTON
BLAKENEY
BORDLEY
BORDOR
CHAMBORD II
CROMER
DARBY
DRAKE
GRAFTON
HADDON
HALLATON
HASTINGS
HOUGHTON
KILTON
LANGLEY
LUFFIELD
MILAN
MILTON
MONACO
NADER
OAKLEY
PENZANCE
PERRIER
PIERSON
PORTMAN
RUSSEL
SADDLE
SANDON
TAMAR
TIVERTON
WELHAM
YORK





A titre d'exemple vous souhaitez commander le Bordor en coloris Pewter et surpiqûres blanches sur une double semelle cuir ?
Nous pouvons le réaliser toute l'année au prix de 1250 €, mais du 8 au 15 juin son coût n'est que de 980 €.

N'hésitez pas, je suis à l'écoute de toute question qu'il vous semblerait utile de me poser !

A très bientôt,

Sincères salutations,

Christophe Dubon

Basically it all means you can buy any Derby, current models, past models, any color, any size, any last etc for a price of 980 € less VAT plus shipping. I think it is a great deal and something the English bootmakers should start thinking about.

Each and every month they have a similar deal.
post #57 of 66
i think i need to visit this store
post #58 of 66
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Originally Posted by chas View Post
I have the opposite problem. I live in NYC and pop in every few months. 3 out of 5 times I walk out with a shoe because...they just happened to have it in my size. Just random luck.

Terrible problem to have
post #59 of 66
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Terrible problem to have
mhmm
post #60 of 66
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mhmm

you are a cheater.
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