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post #16 of 24
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I can accept that, but I think what we are discussing is surely not a fashion sense.  Just laziness is getting a proper fitting suit.  My freshman roommate is college was from Queens and his jeans were at least 4 sizes too big, but that was a fashion statment.  What would have drove me crazy would have bben if he kept pulling his pants up because they didn't fit.  
Unfortunately for most it is not laziness but a twisted variation of a fashion 'sense'. The pants that don't fit and need to be pulled up, is a fashion statement. The skin tight, flaring, outfits are often considered "˜style' as well. This trend translates in formal wear. These are the styles of my peers, styles of my acquaintances as and in some cases, friends. Although they are all good people inside, on the outside they often tend to look like quite funny. The interesting thing is that some women actually cannot see the difference [or in some case prefer either extreme to the "˜proper' fit] between someone wearing couture, properly fitted garments and the ill-sized variations. Fortunately it is the type of females that describes themselves as "˜classy'..... chuckles.... By pad I was referring to an apartment, condo, the like.
post #17 of 24
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HRH - you are missing the point - either this is a first wife or else you must be a very slow learner. When she says you spent 3 times as much as she did the canned response should be "But darling - you are beautiful and everything looks good on you, I've just been trying to raise myself up to your level so you won't be embarassed when we go out". ...sigh, for the love of God, man - call on us when such a discussion arises and let more experienced BS artists help you form a cohesive strategy for dealing with the woman.
So, did you ever manage to convince your SO about that pair of bespoke Lobbs yet?
post #18 of 24
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So, did you ever manage to convince your SO about that pair of bespoke Lobbs yet?
I am not sure who you are referring to, but my wife found the initial Vass pictures that Mr. Harris posted to be very nice. She has said I could get a couple pairs but only if they were fitted in Budapest. Still trying to figure out a business reason to get there. Alias, I am making my first visit to Seoul in November. What hotel would you recommend that I stay. Price is not much of a concern as it is on the company dime.
post #19 of 24
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Unfortunately for most it is not laziness but a twisted variation of a fashion 'sense'. The pants that don't fit and need to be pulled up, is a fashion statement. The skin tight, flaring, outfits are often considered "˜style' as well. This trend translates in formal wear. These are the styles of my peers, styles of my acquaintances as and in some cases, friends. Although they are all good people inside, on the outside they often tend to look like quite funny.
This is, of course, just a reflection of your particular tastes. Apart from comfort, and even that is relative (otherwise, we might all be wearing velour tracksuits everywhere - hey, Juicy Couture.) there are no real absolutes in style or fashion. Our ideas of what looks good and what looks bad are a product of biological intuitions (of this first, I have only secondhand evidence, but I am sure of it) mediated by cultural perceptions. Certainly, "correct fit" is a chimera if I've ever seen one. Personally, I think that if everything fits too perfectly, and if everything matches, I immediately think "uptight dillhole", and probably wouldn't want to hang out with that guy. Not to say that I like the look of a 160 lb guy wearing a 44L suit; but let's just agree that we don't like the look, and not go so far as to say that the look objectively sucks.
post #20 of 24
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Personally, I think that if everything fits too perfectly, and if everything matches, I immediately think "uptight dillhole", and probably wouldn't want to hang out with that guy.
Maybe it is just that I am getting older, or that I have to be presentable as a requirement. However, when I "hang out" I definately do not even want to think about matching or wearing perfectly tailored clothes.
post #21 of 24
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Our ideas of what looks good and what looks bad are a product of biological intuitions (of this first, I have only secondhand evidence, but I am sure of it) mediated by cultural perceptions.  Certainly, "correct fit" is a chimera if I've ever seen one.  
I would certainly agree on the cultural parameters defining "˜correct' fit, but biological intuition? "Too tight" is better defined by a sociocultural notion of fashion, not a body type formula. [if that's what you are referring to] As for velour - it is definitely one of the best "˜inventions' revived by the hip-hop styling mentioned in another thread.
post #22 of 24
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Alias, I am making my first visit to Seoul in November.  What hotel would you recommend that I stay. Price is not much of a concern as it is on the company dime.
I was talking to Carlo. Sorry for any confusion. The Oakwood hotel is nice. It's on the southern side of Seoul, and connects directly via tunnel to the COEX, a big sprawling underground shopping mall/food court/place where all the young people hang out. You won't have any problems finding good shopping and entertainment in that area. There's the Grand Hyatt right on a hill next to Namsan Mountain. That hotel is nice as well, but it's surrounded by Itaewon, an area that really sucks at night unless you like getting drunk and picking up Korean hookers who may or may not be female. During the daytime, Itaewon isn't so bad, with some good restaurants and probably one decent tailor (the Hahn's fellow bern reviewed some time ago.) Just stay away from the guys trying to talk you into buying their stuff. There's always a line of taxis available in front of the Hyatt to get you out of there and to places like Myongdong, Kangnam, and Apgujeong, all the high-class and ritzy areas with huge department stores run by the Hyundai company. Taxis in Korea are also very cheap, except for the black ones, which are refitted luxury cars and will cost you a bunch. I haven't had much experience with the other hotels in Korea. There's the familiar names like Shilla and Star but I haven't actually been to those. So, of the two that I've actually experienced, I'd recommend the Oakwood.
post #23 of 24
Alias - I mentioned it and she said it sounded okay to her ...and since my best friend is an ER doc he could probably retrieve them from my rectum when she got finished 'discussing' the $5000 expenditure. Let me make this very clear - A man has to firmly lay down the law about who is in charge - In my house, whatever i say goes... it's just that before doing so I lean over to Jill and ask "what should I say dear???"
post #24 of 24
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Personally, I think that if everything fits too perfectly, and if everything matches, I immediately think "uptight dillhole",
Cool it, LA Guy, leave me out of this...
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