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post #16 of 48
well the chest pains and lethargy can also be symptoms of a busy and stressful year. i wouldn't beat yourself up about doing a crash after december and needing to zone out for a while. a bit of exercise, some clean eating, and trying a positive outlook (hard at times...) can all help. best
post #17 of 48
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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post
This might sound like bullshit, but I think exercise helps. I'm not talking about going to the gym either... Things as simple as biking, hiking or running has helped me.

I read to this post and felt that was enough. I totally agree with biking. I hadn't been on a bike for about 3 years (my last bike was stolen and I never replaced it) I rode my friends bike home one night drunk as fuck because I couldn't drive. When it came time to get my car, I arrived about 3.5 hours later than I had planned because I forgot how awesome bikes are. The city I live in is only 5.5-6km wide and I went back and forth countless times on many different routes. I was definitely having a fucking blast too. If you are feeling down, hop on a bike and go for a ride. Or, if you have a sexy woman in your life, nail her, then go for a bike ride together.
post #18 of 48
My depression story --

When I was 15 or so, I was diagnosed with depression along with a couple other things. They put me on a variety of medications, but all these medications did was make me feel as though I was on crack for about an hour, then I'd come down and feel like absolute crap again. I told them once what was happening, they upped the dosage. From then on I lied and said it was helping.

in my senior year of high school (16 or 17yrs old) they switched me to something that I found to be rather addicting, and for awhile I was popping those guys like tic tacs. One day during whatever english course I was taking I realized how shitty living life like this was. And quit cold turkey. Stopped going to therapy, stopped taking pills and just decided to work it all out on my own.

Now, it was pretty bad for me. I regularly thought of committing suicide. I was terrible in social situations. If a girl I was attracted to looked in my direction, if a teacher called on me, if I had to talk in front of more than 2 people I'd go into what can only be described as thinker's block. I absolutely 100% could not get a thought through. All I could think over and over again was "ALL EYES ON ME ALL EYES ON ME ALL EYES ON ME". It really is hard to explain, because I'd try to get thoughts through. It's similar to when a word is on the tip of your tongue, but you just cant think of it... only apply that to uttering a single noise. My brain basically shut down. Another good example would be trying to get across a river without paddles. What you're trying to do is getting drowned out by all the other crap that's going on (hopefully this made sense). This made me pretty awkward, but somehow I had several different groups of friends, and although at the time I thought of myself as one of the less-liked people in school, thinking back on it now I was pretty popular.

So -- I stopped taking pills and decided to work through it on my own. I forced myself to go out and hang out with people when all I really wanted to do is stay home and read or play video games. I made myself start and complete projects. Things I worked on to stay busy included building furniture, learning html, css and other website related stuff and I just kept on chugging away. Most recently I started buying leather and started designing and making bags, wallets and other small items. I also ride my bike. All of these things were very important in my growing away from depression. I wouldn't say they cured it. I still have issues I deal with that I can't really figure out how to fix, but maybe eventually.

Basically, I cured depression by being too busy to focus on whatever ideas caused my depression. I still have the same thoughts on many subjects - I don't have a problem with suicide (if someone wants to go, let them), I don't see a point to life or existence, and I still worry unnecessarily about some simple thing I did earlier that day/week/month but these thought's aren't accompanied with "might as well kill myself". I'd say that is success.

Of course I also don't really care if I die. I assume this isn't the healthiest outlook, but its better than my outlook before. The only reason I want to stay alive now, and for as long as possible, is to see what kind of amazing things we (humans) accomplish while I still can.

I am pretty tired, and due to this I feel like this post might be a little scatter brained. If so, I am sorry, but hopefully it is coherent enough for you to follow. If not I'll revise in the morning.
post #19 of 48
Plenty of carbohydrates (starches) in your meals help tryptophan get to where it does the most good: in your brain. In order to cross the blood-brain barrier to get in, carbos are required. So cheese and crackers provides a better effect than the cheese standing alone. An egg or two on toast is better than just the egg. Beans, peas, and nuts already contain carbohydrate, so you are all set there. Consider that five servings of beans, a few portions of cheese or peanut butter, or just one big handful of cashews provides one to two thousand milligrams of tryptophan, which will work as well as prescription antidepressants... but don't tell the drug companies. Some skeptics think that the pharmaceutical people already know. here for full article: http://www.doctoryourself.com/prozac.html
post #20 of 48
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Originally Posted by TACO_FLAVORED_KISSES View Post
I know there's been plenty of threads on this issue, which generally lead to debates. But for the sake of this thread, I'd like to hear some stories from individuals who have overcome depression via more natural alternatives (meditiation, yoga, 5htp, St. John Wort, Rosea, etc). I hoping this thread becomes a source of optimism for those who suffer from depression, anxiety, panic attacks,etc. Thus, I ask those who favour a "pharmacological" approach to respect the basis of this thread.



PS I'll shortly add my story when time permits.



Thank You all!
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hey, i have been suffering from depression ever since high school sophomore year till college! There were many reasons that contributed to this. For one, I was kind of anti social. I would stay home all day and watch tv and play WoW. I felt depressed because I felt my social life was going no where and that there was no use for me to live. I also developed chest "pains" and thought I was having heart problems.. this happened so much that I actually went to the E.R.

Well, I got over my depression naturally after I went to college and decided I have to meet more people and meet people who are optimistic.. Having other people's good aura really makes a huge impact on your life! Go out meet people, drink, party and have a good time man! Life is too damn short to be depressed. Even so, you will be looking back in a few years and you will say to yourself "why the eff was I so depressed??" and you might even dig yourself in a bigger hole!
post #21 of 48
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Originally Posted by off brand View Post
My depression story --

When I was 15 or so, I was diagnosed with depression along with a couple other things. They put me on a variety of medications, but all these medications did was make me feel as though I was on crack for about an hour, then I'd come down and feel like absolute crap again. I told them once what was happening, they upped the dosage. From then on I lied and said it was helping.

in my senior year of high school (16 or 17yrs old) they switched me to something that I found to be rather addicting, and for awhile I was popping those guys like tic tacs. One day during whatever english course I was taking I realized how shitty living life like this was. And quit cold turkey. Stopped going to therapy, stopped taking pills and just decided to work it all out on my own.

Now, it was pretty bad for me. I regularly thought of committing suicide. I was terrible in social situations. If a girl I was attracted to looked in my direction, if a teacher called on me, if I had to talk in front of more than 2 people I'd go into what can only be described as thinker's block. I absolutely 100% could not get a thought through. All I could think over and over again was "ALL EYES ON ME ALL EYES ON ME ALL EYES ON ME". It really is hard to explain, because I'd try to get thoughts through. It's similar to when a word is on the tip of your tongue, but you just cant think of it... only apply that to uttering a single noise. My brain basically shut down. Another good example would be trying to get across a river without paddles. What you're trying to do is getting drowned out by all the other crap that's going on (hopefully this made sense). This made me pretty awkward, but somehow I had several different groups of friends, and although at the time I thought of myself as one of the less-liked people in school, thinking back on it now I was pretty popular.

So -- I stopped taking pills and decided to work through it on my own. I forced myself to go out and hang out with people when all I really wanted to do is stay home and read or play video games. I made myself start and complete projects. Things I worked on to stay busy included building furniture, learning html, css and other website related stuff and I just kept on chugging away. Most recently I started buying leather and started designing and making bags, wallets and other small items. I also ride my bike. All of these things were very important in my growing away from depression. I wouldn't say they cured it. I still have issues I deal with that I can't really figure out how to fix, but maybe eventually.

Basically, I cured depression by being too busy to focus on whatever ideas caused my depression. I still have the same thoughts on many subjects - I don't have a problem with suicide (if someone wants to go, let them), I don't see a point to life or existence, and I still worry unnecessarily about some simple thing I did earlier that day/week/month but these thought's aren't accompanied with "might as well kill myself". I'd say that is success.

Of course I also don't really care if I die. I assume this isn't the healthiest outlook, but its better than my outlook before. The only reason I want to stay alive now, and for as long as possible, is to see what kind of amazing things we (humans) accomplish while I still can.

I am pretty tired, and due to this I feel like this post might be a little scatter brained. If so, I am sorry, but hopefully it is coherent enough for you to follow. If not I'll revise in the morning.


You got social fobia or squizotypal personality disorder. I had kind of social fobia at that age, then I became a dj and was high all the time, that helped to pass that. Now I got a terrible depression.
post #22 of 48
According to the documentary Food Matters. There have been studies that prove high doses of Vitamin B3 (niacin) dramatically affect depression. It can take up to several thousand mg per day.
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post #24 of 48
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Originally Posted by SpallaCamiccia View Post
You got social fobia or squizotypal personality disorder. I had kind of social fobia at that age, then I became a dj and was high all the time, that helped to pass that. Now I got a terrible depression.

I was thinking social anxiety disorder - same thing really though
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post #26 of 48
This isn't medical advice but... While I simply can't understand the stigma (and ignorance) surrounding medication for depression (and there are different kinds of depression which need to be dealt with differently), there are free support groups (typically at local hospitals) for those dealing with depression. There are also 12 step support groups for those dealing with addictions and those that are addicted (addiction and codependency and depression / family trauma can go hand in hand). This in addition to exercise, St. John's Wort, Therapy, etc... Unfortunately, I don't know of anyone beating chronic or clinical depression / Bi - Polar w/out meds. But, then again, I'm not a Doctor so I wouldn't know.
post #27 of 48
Psychotherapy is very effective with a skilled clinician. Using some herbal remedy is just rolling the dice with your brain chemistry. Drugs may solve the chemical problem, but not treat the underlying issues.
post #28 of 48
Figure out what is bothering you... and remove it from life.

When someone is depressed... they will usually dwell on something over and over and over and over to the point where it drives them nuts. So once you realize what is going on, you can gain some control. Gain awareness of what your mind is fixated on.

The best non-medical approach is to simplify life and be more aware of what is causing your feelings. When someone feels the brain going in that crazy cycle... recognize what is going on and stop. I think depression is often the byproduct of not recognizing that your brain is running rampant.
post #29 of 48
I've read of fish oil helping with depression. Fish oil makes you happy: Psychological distress and omega-3 index http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...hological.html The sunshine vitamin, vitamin D3 has been found to help with winter blues. I've read many people mentioning this. Not everyone knows this, but D3 is a pro-hormone and obtaining desirables levels needs to be individualized. Getting vitamin D right http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...n-d-right.html Good luck!
post #30 of 48
Part of depression/panic attacks is the context one views their circumstances. As an example right now it's 28 degrees in Chicago. It's January and that's normal to good. I have a friend that views anything short of 70 degrees as impossible to deal with. The guy checks the weather channel every day and his mood fluctuates with the temperature. According to him, a certain depression/sadness is appropriate whenever it's too hot or cold. To me this is crazy. The weather is the weather and I don't left it influence me unduly.
The Landmark Forum (formally est) has a short program that can help in creating a useful context for your circumstances.
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