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Stories like this make me question how far-removed abortion in this country is from serial murder...

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=7906881

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He "induced labor, forced the live birth of viable babies in the sixth, seventh, eighth month of pregnancy and then killed those babies by cutting into the back of the neck with scissors and severing their spinal cord," District Attorney Seth Williams said. Gosnell referred to it as "snipping," prosecutors said.

Prosecutors estimated Gosnell ended hundreds of pregnancies by cutting the spinal cords, but they said they couldn't prosecute more cases because he destroyed files.

post #2 of 230
Poor quality healthcare in the ghetto? That never happens. Oh, and if people weren't trying so hard to make abortion difficult to get guys like this wouldn't have a market. This is no different than the bakc alley abortions done back when it was illegal.
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post
Oh, and if people weren't trying so hard to make abortion difficult to get guys like this wouldn't have a market.

Just wondering if you are bloviating here, or if you actually believe this.
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Originally Posted by montecristo#4 View Post
Just wondering if you are bloviating here, or if you actually believe this.

If there was a hospital that did abortions and this guy next door, who would you go to?
post #5 of 230
I don't get it. He was just doing partial birth abortions, which are a necessary element of a woman's right to choose. The only thing he was doing "wrong" was that he wasn't licensed to do them, because the state has a backwards view on late-term abortions. These sorts of scissor-stabbing procedures should be legal, abundantly available, and probably ought to be government-sponsored, as reducing access to sound medical procedures is inhuman.
post #6 of 230
the problem was that he was a quack, but that's what you get when normal professional doctors have protesters in front of their offices and are insulted by politicians who work hard that they receive no compensation for the work.
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post
If there was a hospital that did abortions and this guy next door, who would you go to?

Am I wrong, or can you not visit a clinic in any state and get an abortion for a couple hundred bucks, or free if you're poor? WTF do you need a hospital for?
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Originally Posted by montecristo#4 View Post
Am I wrong, or can you not visit a clinic in any state and get an abortion for a couple hundred bucks, or free if you're poor? WTF do you need a hospital for?

3 states have only one abortion provider in the entire state and many many people are hundreds of miles from their nearest provider. I saw something that said 87% of counties have no abortion providers.
post #9 of 230
really awful. i don't see a right to abortion in the constitution and i doubt i ever well, but from a political standpoint i see roe v wade as settled law and i feel that abortions should always be safe and by the book first and foremost. so awful.
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post
3 states have only one abortion provider in the entire state and many many people are hundreds of miles from their nearest provider. I saw something that said 87% of counties have no abortion providers.

This. While abortion is still technically legal, the anti-abortion movement has been stunningly effective at making them increasingly difficult to obtain.
post #11 of 230
There are just some things that go on where all I do is shake my head and walk away asking myself just what in the hell civilized really means. This is one of those cases.
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post
3 states have only one abortion provider in the entire state and many many people are hundreds of miles from their nearest provider. I saw something that said 87% of counties have no abortion providers.

Yes, and this was in Philadelphia.

Feel free to conflate South Dakota and Philly to make your tangential political point.
post #13 of 230
is this a repost from the story earlier in the week?
post #14 of 230
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post
3 states have only one abortion provider in the entire state and many many people are hundreds of miles from their nearest provider. I saw something that said 87% of counties have no abortion providers.

Three states where most people own a car. So an abortion is what, never more than two hours away, worst case scenario?

Plus, as CQ pointed out, this is Philly. So what's the excuse?

This does NOT happen because it's too hard to get an abortion. It happens because people are sick and stupid.
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Originally Posted by rjakapeanut View Post
really awful. i don't see a right to abortion in the constitution
You do realize that something doesn't have to be explicitly sanctioned in the Constitution to be signed into law? As for the article, meh. It is pretty horrible how this doctor did this, and he deserves all the punishment he gets. I don't really see how one can make a sweeping generalization about abortion based off this one case. Not that I really know that much about abortion clinics, but I doubt this is anything close to the norm.
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