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post #376 of 2412
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no method actor would sign on to a movie where their face was completely covered the entire film either. you can't gauge anything if you can't see their face.

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post #377 of 2412
i want to point out that from the teaser it seems like gordon is the one with the broken back, so maybe this isnt exactly "knightfall"

i really hope the movie doesnt end with a "broken bat" that will be both an epically good and sad ending
post #378 of 2412
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i want to point out that from the teaser it seems like gordon is the one with the broken back, so maybe this isnt exactly "knightfall"

This. It looks like Gordon is on the bed and Wayne's voice is in the background, not the other way around. Nolan has been using the comics as inspiration, but not copying directly... after all he isn't Zack Snyder doing Watchmen.
post #379 of 2412
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Nolan has been using the comics as inspiration, but not copying directly... after all he isn't Zack Snyder doing Watchmen.

This is a bad comparison. Watchmen has an engaging storyline with complex characters and rich history. It had a particular story to tell which Snyder attempted to do. Batman, on the other hand, can be written in so many different ways. The liberties you can take with a character is vastly different than what one can do with an entire story.
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post #381 of 2412
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+1 with Neo. If Snyder diverted away from the Watchmen story, he would have been crucified. He already got plenty of shit when he didn't include the giant squid. lol8[1].gif He really didn't have a choice in the matter and I still think he did a great job considering he had to make it all fit into one film.

I'm still not convinced Gordon was talking to Bruce in that clip. It makes sense but unless Gordon finds out who Bats really is, it just doesn't seem like it would make sense for them to have such a conversation.
post #382 of 2412
I really want to know if Nolan is going to include the 'venom' aspect of Bane at all.

I would like for this to end on the note of Bruce leaving the cape behind at the end.

I have an awesome idea for a follow up film based on BRuce returning to being Batman 20-25 years later and dealing with Damien Wayne, Riddler, and Hush.
post #383 of 2412
I could be wrong, and I've listened clesely to the part several times. To me it sounds like Gordon is saying at first, "we were in this together and then you were gone." And it definitely sounds like Bruce saying, "what if he doesn't exist, anymore?" So it beats the hell out of me as to who he is talking to.

Here's the 1080p HD trailer
post #384 of 2412
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It could just be spliced together? He could be talking to Batman and they just spliced Bruce's line in there?

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I really want to know if Nolan is going to include the 'venom' aspect of Bane at all.

I don't know, if you really think about it, Venom is just steroids, seems pretty realistic but I too am curious if Nolan includes it in the film. I surely hope so since w/o venom it'll be like Batman w/o a batarang or grappling hook.
post #385 of 2412
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This. It looks like Gordon is on the bed and Wayne's voice is in the background, not the other way around. Nolan has been using the comics as inspiration, but not copying directly... after all he isn't Zack Snyder doing Watchmen.

yes but he did stay pretty close to the comics which is why i question whether he will stick closely to knightfall
post #386 of 2412
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It could just be spliced together? He could be talking to Batman and they just spliced Bruce's line in there?


I don't know, if you really think about it, Venom is just steroids, seems pretty realistic but I too am curious if Nolan includes it in the film. I surely hope so since w/o venom it'll be like Batman w/o a batarang or grappling hook.

I was thinking that as well (the splicing of the dialogue).

As far as Venom goes, instead of the pump hooked up to him, and sticking to the realism factor, maybe, Venom is in needle form and Bane shoots it up?
post #387 of 2412
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Originally Posted by Neo_Version 7 View Post


This is a bad comparison. Watchmen has an engaging storyline with complex characters and rich history. It had a particular story to tell which Snyder attempted to do. Batman, on the other hand, can be written in so many different ways. The liberties you can take with a character is vastly different than what one can do with an entire story.

I disagree, and the best example is V for Vendetta, which while excellent drops and modifies many aspects of the graphic novel. While Watchmen stayed a lot closer to the graphic novel, you have to admit that each individual Batman 'story arc' Such as Knightfall or Batman: Year One or The Dark Knight Returns can be followed and are just as engaging and full of far richer history (dating back to May '39) and just as complex characters.
post #388 of 2412
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I disagree, and the best example is V for Vendetta, which while excellent drops and modifies many aspects of the graphic novel. While Watchmen stayed a lot closer to the graphic novel, you have to admit that each individual Batman 'story arc' Such as Knightfall or Batman: Year One or The Dark Knight Returns can be followed and are just as engaging and full of far richer history (dating back to May '39) and just as complex characters.

Your argument would make more sense if the Nolan films were direct adaptations of said arcs which they are not. Watchmen and V for Vendetta -- while making changes to the books -- still follow the plots of their novels quite closely. The Batman movies by Nolan have always taken elements from different stories but the films themselves have their own unique narrative.
post #389 of 2412
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I'm still not convinced Gordon was talking to Bruce in that clip.


Yeah I'm not either. Especially since its a teaser and that most trailers are mashups of different parts of the movies only to convey messages and themes.
post #390 of 2412
Could be Dent he's talking to. That would be my guess.
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