Batman: Dark Knight Rises (movie thread) - Page 149

Vile would have been a better villain than Bane.

 

Or is The Vile?

 

lefty

Haha. This may be one of the worst threads in EC

I'm not sure why I keep checking it out when there are new posts.

This was ever in question?

 

 

 

lefty

Realized I never formally posted my thoughts on the movie. Now that I have had a chance to see it twice, figure it's a good time to do so.

CONTAINS SPOILERS. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Good:

I am stunned Nolan created a movie that incorporated The Dark Knight Returns, Knightfall, and the real shocker.. No Mans Land all in one film. On top of this, he introduced Robin, Batman, Talia & Bane into one movie and it worked?? That makes what Spiderman 3 had look like a cake walk

Overall, it had huge scope and I enjoy the tone of each film (and theme) was different. It was a far reaching movie with big ideas and big scope. Did he land them all? Eh probably not but damn he actually tried. I love that. You can't say he didn't try to do something truly unique with his "comic book" films. I also liked how hit tied the two previous films together and it truly is a trilogy with a beginning, middle and end.

I have to admit that I started to question if it was going to be "Talia" but just not named Talia since the reveal was late in the film. Even non comic books fans gasped at her big moment. haha. Gordon was still badass, Catwoman worked surprisingly well, and best of all... Bane broke batman's back. *geeks out*

Also, I loved how they worked in Robin real subtle way. I picked up on it early on and said to myself "Nolan just added robin w/o the name". The "Robin" reveal at the end was the obvious moment meant for the general audience (non fanboys/girls) to pick up on.

BAD:

Realize I hinted at this earlier in the thread and never revealed what my one BIG issue was. Still surprised more people have not picked up on and commented about it.

The film portrayed Batman as someone who gave up. He quit. Hung up the cowl and retired for eight long years. It's always been the one thing that bothered me in The Dark Knight Returns graphic novel and why I feel the version of Bruce told in Kingdom Come is superior. Bruce should be portrayed as a man obsessed with justice and protecting the innocent. Almost to the point of insanity. He wouldn't give up. Certainly over something like a woman he loves being killed. If anything, that would just motivate him more.

Yet in this film, that's what we get. A Batman who retires in his prime. Yes you can make the (correct) point that the Nolan universe Batman was never portrayed as obsessed as the comic version. He was even actively looking for a way out with Dent in the second film. It works in the context of these films, but that does not mean I have to like it.

It also took away from the big promise Nolan gave us at the end of the 2nd film. Remember when the Joker said they are destined to go at it forever? Him and Batman? Well guess what? Didn't happen! For all we know, Joker rotted away and died in prison after the events in TDK. You can also forget any imagined hope he fought other villains over the years like Riddler, Killer Croc, Baby Doll (heh), etc. Such a travesty when you think about it.

OVERALL:

So yes, I did enjoy it even if I would have done things differently. Not the best but still very very good. I'd probably put it # 3 of the trilogy but I really liked what they were trying to do. Best of all? Nolan broke the 3rd movie curse!

Oh and in regards to all the hater nonsense in this thread... I said it before, but I swear people have become so spoiled. As a batman die hard I'm just so happy to have these films that show a wide audiences the great aspects (and diverse stories that can be told) with the character and mythos.

Rewatching Batman Begins, and what strikes me is how similar it looks to Inception, at times.  Also, the music.  

 

Remember the opening sequence of Inception, where Leo washes up on the beach and is taken up a hill and into a building where he speaks with a very old looking Ken Watanabe...

 

...and then I just saw the sequence where Bale treks up a large mountain and goes into a building (that looks like it's out of inception) and speaks with...a very old looking Ken Watanabe...lol.  

 

As I'm sure you know, Nolan is a fan of working with the same actors several times over, and Hans Zimmer did the scores for Inception as well as the Batman trilogy

i liked how nolan introduced the characters without their comic book names throughout the movie. like how catwoman was never once refered to as "catwoman" (at least not that i recall. and i've seen the movie three times already). bruce called her a cat burglar, but that's it. same with robin until the very end.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/06/barack-obama-dark-knight-rises-anne-hathaway-catwoman_n_1749809.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment

that's exactly how i felt. i will vote obama.

nice summation nerd mouse.

your issues didnt bother me at all, but im not a comic book reader, so its hard to make a counter point.

I know I'm really late (been busy, as of late) but I'm glad you have this opinion.

BOOSH!

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/the-big-murk-a-conversation-about-christopher-nolans-the-dark-knight-rises?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=digest52

I don't care if this thread is dead. I've wanted to be a contrarian ever since I was a small child.

Hahahahahaha, that dialogue smacks of something you'd hear at a Williamsburg dive bar while whatever highly rated pitchfork band is playing in the background.

I almost can't believe I'm reading it...

ITT: Armchair directors create a better Batman movie....