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post #1846 of 2412
The internet, where everyone moonlights as an angry movie critic.

How come in all the "THIS WASN'T REALISTIC" complaints some people have they don't say they were mad the cops didn't have beards? shog[1].gif
post #1847 of 2412
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Originally Posted by gort View Post

The internet, where everyone moonlights as an angry movie critic.
How come in all the "THIS WASN'T REALISTIC" complaints some people have they don't say they were mad the cops didn't have beards? shog[1].gif




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Q. You’ve stated on several occasions that you wanted to ground this film in a more realistic look. But we’re talking about a guy who disguises himself as a bat to fight terrorism. Why did you feel that you had to give it a realistic look when the story is just a comic book?
A. To say the story is just a comic book is to sort of miss the whole point really.
But accepting that point, when you talk about realism in films, you’re talking about issues of texture and look as much as anything more substantial. For me, really, the idea of grounding the film in reality is about making the audience believe in the events of the story more and I think that the more people are invested in the story, both in terms of character and in terms of the actual events and the physicality of what’s going on, if those things can be believed in, I think the narrative effects of the story are amplified. So, to me, it’s all really about creating the most involving experience possible.
post #1848 of 2412
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

It's a conservative movie guyz!!! Edmund Burke, Ludwig von Mises, and Ronald Reagan wud have luved it!

I'm having this argument on facebook right now.

"new batman movie is pretty much nypd wet dream of having big group of dangerous hippies for them to beat on righteously"

UGH
Edited by GraphicNovelty - 7/23/12 at 9:59am
post #1849 of 2412

It was a great movie.

post #1850 of 2412
Thread Starter 
Nolan was being pressured to have Riddler as the TDKR villain, good thing he stood his ground on Bane.


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Dixon (Bane's co-creator in the comics) was much more happy with the way Nolan and Tom Hardy handled the character.

"Apparently, Warner Bros. was pressuring Nolan to use the Riddler, which would have been too similar to the Joker," Dixon continued. "Plus, the Riddler, like the Joker and so many of Batman's villains, is no challenge against him in a mano-a-mano fistfight. Batman will wipe the floor with him in that situation.

“I am beyond glad that Nolan had the juice in Hollywood to stick to his guns," he added. "From interviews I've seen, it's clear he understands the character and he gets what we were going for. It's not exactly what I created, but he's physically imposing and Tom Hardy is one hell of an actor. I can't imagine Bane being better portrayed."


Also, Anne is considering a Catwoman spin-off, which I really wouldn't mind seeing if done right. I found the the Year One Catwoman pretty interesting and somewhat similar to Annes version in TDKR, I wouldn't mind seeing that exploration with a cameo from Hardy's Bane since they implied in the film that they had a past.
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In an interview with Digital Spy, the conversation went in that direction and Hathaway was very enthusiastic about the idea.

"I think it would be lovely to see more of her but only if it's with the right people," Hathaway said. "She lives in this Gotham City and so it would have to be established by the people who have made this Gotham City. For me, at least."
post #1851 of 2412
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I was watching BB last night while trying to fall asleep and in the end when Bruce was closing the well he fell into he was wearing and JLC and it made want one. Now this comes out...

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post #1852 of 2412
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

This is one of those times where just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it is good/worth respecting etc.
ETA: I may have to take Lighthouse off ignore to see this batch of stupidity.

You say this, but didn't you have an earlier post in which you listed several things wrong with the film.

Also, Rennavate's opinion is totally worth hearing. It's substantial. I personally think he is right. The only difference between he and I is that he perceived those things and still managed to enjoy it. I didn't.
post #1853 of 2412
Thought you guys might enjoy this from the Huff Post:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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There was never any guarantee that Christopher Nolan would make a third Batman movie. After The Dark Knight, Nolan would have probably been satisfied with two films about the Caped Crusader if he wasn't able to crack a third story. Obviously, he was, however, as The Dark Knight Rises exists. And it shouldn't have been too big of a surprise to Nolan that he liked the story for The Dark Knight Rises, considering he made a very similar movie in 2005: Batman Begins

(Your spoiler alert system should be set to full throttle from this point on. And, yes, I'm doing my best to just write about the movie, which isn't easy after the tragic events of Friday.)

First, I really liked The Dark Knight Rises, so this isn't a criticism of the film, but more of an observation that it follows a lot of the same key plot points as Batman Begins. (Not surprisingly, I also very much enjoyed Batman Begins.) But it does feel like there's a little bit of Return of the Jedi syndrome going on here. You know, "I dunno, how about we just do the Death Star again? People liked that the first time we did it, right?"

Waiting for The Batman.

Just like in Batman Begins, we wait an awfully long time before we actually see Bruce Wayne in the Batman costume. In Begins, Bruce went through a series of life challenges and intense training before he became Batman. In Rises, Bruce has rejected his Batman persona but, eventually, when circumstances change, has to train because his body is so wrecked.

Visiting Gordon with a Ski Mask.

In Begins, Bruce's first visit with Jim Gordon as a masked vigilante is done while Bruce is wearing a ski mask over his face. In Rises, the first meeting between these two in eight years is done in a hospital while, yes, Bruce is wearing a ski mask over his face. (Only this time accompanied by a nice suit.)

Mass terror threat against Gotham.

In Batman Begins, Dr. Jonathan Crane (a.k.a. The Scarecrow) threatens Gotham with the use of fear-inducing toxin that he puts into the city's water supply. In The Dark Knight Rises, Bane brings Gotham to its knees after he puts explosives in the city's cement (to cripple the infrastructure), and then threatens Gotham with a neutron bomb.

Release the prisoners.

In Rises, Bane releases all of the prisoners from the local jails, which results in mass hysteria on the streets of Gotham. In Batman Begins, all of the prisoners of Arkham Asylum are released, resulting in mass hysteria on the streets of Gotham.

Who's the real villain?

For most of Batman Begins, we are led to believe that the criminal mastermind behind the terror plot seizing Gotham is Dr. Crane. (Jonathan, not Frazier.) Later, we find out that Crane is just the point man in this operation and the true mastermind is revealed. In Rises, Bane seems to be the man in charge, but we later learn that he's nothing more than a lackey for someone else who has been running the show from behind the scenes.

There's an Al Ghul secretly in charge.

And, yes, in Batman Begins it's revealed that Ra's al Ghul has been secretly behind the threat to destroy Gotham all along. Unfortunately, Al Ghul died in Batman Begins so that trope couldn't be exactly duplicated for The Dark Knight Rises. So this time it's Ra's al Ghul's daughter, Talia al Ghul, who has been secretly in charge of the threat to destroy Gotham. And Talia, just like her father, is killed by an object that acts as a mode of transportation -- only this time it's a large truck instead of a train.
post #1854 of 2412
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I suppose I caught bits of that in the movie. Just rather shocking to see it all in one place.
post #1855 of 2412
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

Thought you guys might enjoy this from the Huff Post: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Yeah, I noticed a few of the "full circle" moments. I just thought it felt really lame. Like Joseph Campbell ( for those who don't know; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell ) shorthand. Or another attempt to add something to appear substantial when there really wasn't any substance. Or another instance of false Nolan brother intellectual smugness. Take your pick.
post #1856 of 2412
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Thought you guys might enjoy this from the Huff Post: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

They didn't mention other stuff like:

Holmes in BB & Anne in TDKR looks so much better than Maggie in TDK.

Bruce was imprisoned, in China in BB and the Pit in TDKR.

Bat-Signals were only shown at the end of both BB and TDKR.

BB & TDKR didn't have the Joker.

Bats gave away his vehicle, the Tumbler to Gordon in BB and the Batpod to Catwoman in TDKR.

Wayne mansion exists in BB & TDKR but not in TDK.

There were kid(s) involved, Joffrey in BB and orphans in TDKR.

Bruce/Fox mentions black vehicles, Bruce asks if the Tumbler comes in black in BB and Fox says the Bat comes in black in TDKR.


Any more I might have missed?
post #1857 of 2412
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Originally Posted by origenesprit View Post

Did anyone else think Bane sounded like Sean Connery?
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Originally Posted by js4design View Post

... Also, I heard Bane's voice described as a muffled version of Darrell Hammond's Sean Connery in the SNL Jeopardy sketches, which I thought was spot on.
post #1858 of 2412
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

They didn't mention other stuff like:
Holmes in BB & Anne in TDKR looks so much better than Maggie in TDK.
Bruce was imprisoned, in China in BB and the Pit in TDKR.
Bat-Signals were only shown at the end of both BB and TDKR.
BB & TDKR didn't have the Joker.
Bats gave away his vehicle, the Tumbler to Gordon in BB and the Batpod to Catwoman in TDKR.
Wayne mansion exists in BB & TDKR but not in TDK.
There were kid(s) involved, Joffrey in BB and orphans in TDKR.
Bruce/Fox mentions black vehicles, Bruce asks if the Tumbler comes in black in BB and Fox says the Bat comes in black in TDKR.
Any more I might have missed?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
not a similarity in BB but in the beginning of TDK and TDKR are the same... essentially... (introduce bad guys in a surprise manner)
post #1859 of 2412
The batman voice is fucking silly in all 3
post #1860 of 2412
nah, the voice is awesome.
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