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post #1726 of 2412
As was Batman Begins, I felt coming out of the theatre that this was in face Batman Ends.

More in the sense of that Batman Begins was not a whole lot of Batman, but rather coping with this idea of Bruce re-entering the world. 'Rises' really brought things back in a closed circle with that tone, of Bruce reentering the world he left behind. Our screen time of Batman in these two films (BB and TDKR) is relatively low compared to TDK, and frankly the movie is more centered around Bruce Wayne than Batman. That is why I think I'd rather compare this movie in my head to BB, rather than TDK.

The difference between the three films is that in TDK, Batman was established and active, at this point Joker was another criminal/villain and he was out to get him.

Nolan's take on Batman has been great. What people plan to do with it after is going to always be looked at as 'Nolan did it better', I also attribute part of that to his brother and Christian Bale.

I really hope nobody tries to create a Batman flick for at least the next ten years, and that if they do, good luck...
post #1727 of 2412
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I guess I'm just biased against Marvel, but I continue to be amazed how beloved Avengers is. I enjoyed it, but was itching to get out of the theater by time it ended.

haha, same. i don't get what the big deal was either. sure the action was great, but it took a long while to get there and i didn't like the main villain at all. the first half of the movie seemed like a mess to me. all ican remember is them sitting around the ship for like an hour saying meaningless shit to each other.

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Got that feeling big time from Catwoman. Gordan amped up his despair for this one. Batman went more headstrong in this one, not really planning things out or building a sound strategy. Look at TDK in how much prep work went into going after the Joker. Then compare it to him immediately strapping up and going after Bane. It's like night and day.

i thought gordon was pretty headstrong in this one too. he didn't seem to hesitate about anything, he just went at like down in the sewers, giving orders from the hospital, coordinating at the end, and how he didn't seem scared at all and pretty much laughed while getting sentenced. compared to TDK where he panicked a lot more over the fear of something happening to harvey and losing his family. the only character that gave me the slightest sense of despair in this movie was alfred with all his crying. i didn't like how he went missing for like the second half of the movie. they should have had him play a part in helping bruce getting back into gottham. i really think this movie can benefit from another 20 minutes. fingers crossed for a director's cut smile.gif
Edited by darkknight - 7/21/12 at 12:29pm
post #1728 of 2412
just found out the theater near my house has d-box seating for this movie. sweet. gonna go check that out today.
post #1729 of 2412
lol it took me a few moments to realize DK had his quotes/replies jumbled.
post #1730 of 2412
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Was I just drunk or did they indicate those cops were stuck underground for 3 months?

I was entertained but didn't feel it was as strong as the first two. There was some "joe public" cheesiness that I couldn't overlook and feel detracted from the overall experience. The entire final act fell flat for me.
post #1731 of 2412
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Was I just drunk or did they indicate those cops were stuck underground for 3 months?
I was entertained but didn't feel it was as strong as the first two. There was some "joe public" cheesiness that I couldn't overlook and feel detracted from the overall experience. The entire final act fell flat for me.
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Closer to 5 if I remember correctly. The bomb was set on a 5 month timer (conveniently giving Bruce enough time to recuperate from a broken back in Uzbekistan)

I would agree. I was kind of disturbed by the various class warfare references - but maybe that's what Nolan intended, to hit home on timely, sensitive subjects. I think the ending to this one somewhat departed from the more "realist" attitude that Nolan was praised for in the previous two. The scope of the finale in this one compared to the other two movies is vastly different.
post #1732 of 2412
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I was in IMAX and it was very very difficult to understand him. People were chattering about it throughout the theater. "What did he say?" shhhhhh "Wait, what was that?" shhhhh. Could have been the theater but I've seen just about every big release in there and have never had a problem before.
Does anyone know if Hardy was wearing a fat suit? He was SO bloated. I couldn't believe how fat his hands and head looked.

it's a disorder called anadrol 50
post #1733 of 2412
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I guess I'm just biased against Marvel, but I continue to be amazed how beloved Avengers is. I enjoyed it, but was itching to get out of the theater by time it ended.
My excitement over BB was due mostly to finally getting the "right" interpretation of the character. At times, I want to dismiss it a bit for its absence of one of those really hard-hitting villains, but I always seem to end up watching chunks of it whenever it's on TV.

the lame villains haven't helped the marvel movies, though in general i am a bigger marvel fan than dc, sans batman who is my favorite superhero
post #1734 of 2412
Some of you guys remind me I need to stay away from the internet. Its the same ol nonsense. I swear people have become so spoiled.  As a batman fan, I'm just happy to have these films that show the wide audiences the great aspects (and diverse stories that can be told) with the character and mythos.
post #1735 of 2412
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the lesbo vibe from selina and her friend/roommate? WHen she said "a storm is coming, this is what you wanted" while holding her from behind.
post #1736 of 2412
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lol it took me a few moments to realize DK had his quotes/replies jumbled.

damnit! thanks for pointing that out. fixed.


just watched it again in d-box, it was pretty cool. worth checking out if you have a theater near you with d-box seating. one of the scenes really hit you hard and the motion works well for the fight scenes too. i still liked imax more, now i just gotta find a theater with imax+dbox.

i also found it A LOT more rewatchable the second time.

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edit: damnit! forgot to pay close attention to the explosion part to see if you can catch bat ejecting out or not. oh well, next time.
post #1737 of 2412
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the lame villains haven't helped the marvel movies, though in general i am a bigger marvel fan than dc, sans batman who is my favorite superhero

overall, marvel probably has cooler characters, but i find batman and superman far more interesting than any single marvel character.
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Anybody get Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
the lesbo vibe from selina and her friend/roommate? WHen she said "a storm is coming, this is what you wanted" while holding her from behind.

lol, i got the same feeling. but i think it was intended.
post #1738 of 2412
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Anybody get Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
the lesbo vibe from selina and her friend/roommate? WHen she said "a storm is coming, this is what you wanted" while holding her from behind.

Totally - mentioned this a page back or so. Think it was to go along w/ the ambiguity of her character in general (Hans Zimmer mentioned her motif being purposefully ambiguous as well). So, at least bi.
post #1739 of 2412
7.5/10

I thought certain aspects of the plot were needlessly complicated without adding any real depth.
post #1740 of 2412
I am not an uptight internet critic but one thing that I noticed that bugged me on my second viewing:
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It was daylight during the stock exchange stand-off and the program needed ~9 minutes IIRC the guy said to complete. The ensuing chase where Batman returned was during the night. Unless we want to go along with switching to a cellular connection meant a much longer execution time, there still should have been daylight during that chase. Minor complaint, though.

Also I loved
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All of Bane's dialogue during the first fight with Batman. "You merely adopted the darkness..."

Edited by gort - 7/21/12 at 3:18pm
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