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post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by Soph
What study(ies) showed it doesn't work for 20% of the population? What were the protocals: dosages, methods effectiveness etc.

Just hearsay to be honest.
post #32 of 54
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Originally Posted by AdamG
Just hearsay to be honest.

i'm noticing a trend here.
post #33 of 54
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Originally Posted by shelton
In regard to a few posts above...
I just did a google search real quick and went direct to that page. You guys are probaly right that it was something else but reading through all the replies it seemed like there were people talking about just creatine too and having side effects similair to what I was talking about. Like I said before I have not read up on it at all and I was only speaking from what I experienced and I'm not trying to prove a point or have a debate about it.

man, if have not read up on it, please don't reference some thread about people going nuts on andro.

if you're not trying to prove a point, don't post bogus evidence.

if you're not trying to have a debate, just admit ignorance gracefully...
post #34 of 54
Do you lose your gains after you stop taking the creatine? I've considered trying it, but odoreater, you are no the only one by far to get a stone while taking the stuff. Your urine is supposedly 90something times more concentrated while you're on it.
post #35 of 54
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Originally Posted by javyn
Do you lose your gains after you stop taking the creatine? I've considered trying it, but odoreater, you are no the only one by far to get a stone while taking the stuff. Your urine is supposedly 90something times more concentrated while you're on it.
Creatine isn't a wonder supplement, it's not magic, but over time it will help. Will you lose gains? Depends on how you define that statement. Your endurance/recovery probably will not be as high as before on creatine, but that's about it.
post #36 of 54
What type of creatine supplement do you all use? I am using something from vitamin world, but am looking for something with less calories. In any case, I have seen benefits from creatine. It makes me much stronger in workouts.

I have heard that creatine etyl ester is superior in some respects. Does anyone have an experience with that variant?
post #37 of 54
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Originally Posted by Alexzander
What type of creatine supplement do you all use? I am using something from vitamin world, but am looking for something with less calories. In any case, I have seen benefits from creatine. It makes me much stronger in workouts.

I have heard that creatine etyl ester is superior in some respects. Does anyone have an experience with that variant?


I just use pure creatine monohydrate. Most mixes are just creatine+sugar, and there's no need to pay a lot for sugar.
post #38 of 54
I've tried a lot of different ones but I really like the AST Micronized Creatine, it's not gritty like some of the others and it doesn't upset my stomach or bloat me.
post #39 of 54
My "creatine story" is, obviously, anecdotal. When I was on it, I was training Brazilian jiu-jitsu three days a week and weight training two days a week. I literally could not drink enough water to keep from getting incapacitating cramps in my quads, calves, and biceps. I must have been drinking 2 gallons of water a day, but I'd get on the mat and as soon as I strained, my muscles would just knot up. That completely outweighed any positive recovery factor for me, and I haven't taken it since.
post #40 of 54
I took it years back (1996) when CELL TECH was the popular one. It required a 16oz glass of water for the 4 scoops. I then switched to the labrada one that you barely used 2oz of water which was better. Noticed some good gains and the strength was really there. Took a long break then switched to the concentrated liquid that you use a dropper and place 1 teaspoon under the tongue. Apparently this one you only take 30 minutes before work out only on work out days. Damn that juiced me up.. Those were the days.. I started lifting again this past week and will do a little research on what to take now..SAFELY..
post #41 of 54
Pictures of bodybuilders from the early 1900's gives all the evidence I need about creatine, whey protein, etc: it's unnecessary. Back then they would just eat a lot and lift heavy. And they got plenty big and strong.

Unless you're going for the modern bodybuilder look then I would say save your money. Store bought supplements may give some users a bit of an "edge", but that's about it.

99.99% of your strength, health and body composition comes from what you eat and how you exercise.
post #42 of 54
I use CEE. Never used mono but have considered it because I've found it cheaper online. The thing with CEE is that there is no water retention, as opposed to mono where there is..
post #43 of 54
Scary to take stuff that has not been around at least for one generation to know whether there are long term effects.
post #44 of 54
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Originally Posted by Chris Rimby
Pictures of bodybuilders from the early 1900's gives all the evidence I need about creatine, whey protein, etc: it's unnecessary. Back then they would just eat a lot and lift heavy. And they got plenty big and strong.

Unless you're going for the modern bodybuilder look then I would say save your money. Store bought supplements may give some users a bit of an "edge", but that's about it.

99.99% of your strength, health and body composition comes from what you eat and how you exercise.

Bodybuilders from the early 1900s ate raw steak because it contains creatine. I think it's a bit easier (and healthier) to just take the real thing rather than eating raw meat.
post #45 of 54
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Originally Posted by cldpsu
Scary to take stuff that has not been around at least for one generation to know whether there are long term effects.

Such as antibiotics and other drugs, genetically engineered food, etc? Most people consume something every day that was developed in the last 10 years.
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