Outlier did well to price something at $100, I was hesitant to spend for their pricier trou but gave NYCOs a shot. In OD in 34 and 36. Take 34 in most pants, like J crew, but 52/36 in italian trou like incotex. 36 was way too big, 34 quite nice. They drape nicely; not nearly as stiff as new denim, IMO. They're not as slim through the leg as I had expected, to continue the comparison, closer to J crew than incotex.
Getting them hemmed now.