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post #571 of 1359
Thanks for popping your 0.6 post/year ratio for me. I will contact Outlier to see if they can help me out.
post #572 of 1359
I have New OGs, Keirin Cuts and two pair of Three Ways. I've had stitching issues on all but the OGs, which I bought second hand and I'm assuming are the oldest. Maybe the new QC guy needs to step it up?
post #573 of 1359
Originally Posted by rxryan View Post


You never asked me... smile.gif

Currently am about to ship to Sweden unless the guy backs out last minute.

 

Did you put up a pair of Outlier x Vans on eBay for $300?!

post #574 of 1359
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Did you put up a pair of Outlier x Vans on eBay for $300?!
Rofl
post #575 of 1359
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Rofl

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Edited by rxryan - 8/9/13 at 9:25am
post #576 of 1359
"You're not wrong, you're just an asshole." - The Dude
post #577 of 1359
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Originally Posted by brooks23 View Post

"You're not wrong, you're just an asshole." - The Dude

That's like... your opinion, man.
post #578 of 1359

I wish I could take pictures of the hole from the snag, I don't have such a lens that can take such detailed macro shots.

 

Judging from everyones reply here, looks like I will only be buying Outlier because of its stretch and breathability (which is really really awesome), not so much on durability then. If it snags so easily, so what is this durability Outlier is promoting about? 

post #579 of 1359
I think they are durable anyway, at least compared to "normal" fabrics. They don't seem to fade after lots of washes, don't get permanently stretched, don't get stained, don't pile, resist abrasion, etc... A pair of dungarees with a few years of wear looks almost as good as new.
post #580 of 1359
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Originally Posted by deadsunrise View Post

I think they are durable anyway, at least compared to "normal" fabrics. They don't seem to fade after lots of washes, don't get permanently stretched, don't get stained, don't pile, resist abrasion, etc... A pair of dungarees with a few years of wear looks almost as good as new.

Isn't this the issue some of us are experiencing?
post #581 of 1359
^ well... not exactly, I understand pilling as the small balls on the outside of the fabric that appear with time. And abrasion as rubbing the fabric against something (a messenger bag rubbing against the side, asphalt when you fall off your bike, etc..). I haven't seen pilling on any of my outlier pants and sliding 3 meters on concrete with my dungarees didn't leave a trace.

it's prickling, like a thorn, cat nails, etc, what seems to get some threads loose and damage the fabric quite easily. I still think that they are more durable than most other pants since prickling can be avoided easier, at least once you know that it can happen. I expect them to be much more durable than most pants in terms of color fading, pilling, fabric getting thinner, etc..
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post #583 of 1359
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Originally Posted by deadsunrise View Post

I think they are durable anyway, at least compared to "normal" fabrics. They don't seem to fade after lots of washes, don't get permanently stretched, don't get stained, don't pile, resist abrasion, etc... A pair of dungarees with a few years of wear looks almost as good as new.

But they are not normal fabrics, and should not be compared to such. They cost four times as much.

post #584 of 1359
^ then.. what do you compare them to? Other technical fabrics that are as expensive as schoeller's? Something not technical but expensive like merino? Nothing? If we are talking about the durability of some pants/fabric you should set a baseline somehow. I know that my dungarees are going to last more years than any other pants I've had so to me, that means that they are durable. What does durability mean to you?

Do you know of any pants more durable than slim dungarees which are comparable in weight, stretch, breath-ability, etc? Definitely not denim, even if it's more expensive. Of course that more durable fabrics exist but not with those qualities and a relatively natural (nice) look.

Admittedly I'm using the dungarees as an example because they are tougher than the ones made with 4season fabric but I still think we are exaggerating a bit on the issues with the OG/shorts and the loose threads. The snags from the cats on my 3way shorts cannot really be seen, I agree that they shouldn't even had happened in the first place but I don't think that there's a much better fabric/technology available today.

Shit, I'm defending them too much but what can I say, i fucking love their pants. Maybe I'm too invested in them to be objective because I haven't worn anything on my legs but outlier in the last year. I lost some weight and had to renew my wardrobe so now I have slim dungarees, OGs, ultralights, nycos and 2 pairs or shorts. I've used them every single day in 2013, I swim with the shorts in the pool and in the sea, I've gone hiking in the dungarees, the ultralights save me from the spanish summers at work... I know it hasn't been a long time but everything looks as good as new.

And the best thing is that everyday there's a moment in which I realize that I'm really comfortable and feeling great in them. So much that I don't wear the nycos or my APC PS because they feel fucking uncomfortable now. The schoeller fabrics have spoiled me badly.

BTW, i'm talking about pants, I'm not too happy with the shirts. And the supermarines shoes, while looking nice and being comfortable, could definitely be more durable, as you have probably noticed with your pair. But they are made by feit so i guess it's not outliers fault.
Edited by deadsunrise - 8/8/13 at 2:12pm
post #585 of 1359
I stopped wearing 3way shorts to pool after lots of abrasion-induced scuffs. Yeah you may not be able to 'see' it, especially if its black like mine, but its there, you feel it when you touch it. I love my ultralights too, but the threads on belt loops Warning: this (Click to show)
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(which I hope are purely aesthetic detail) came undone at the first washing. That durability. Climbers, I wore them on hiking trip, similar to 3ways, it doesn't show but snags and scuffs, snags and scuffs everywhere! I find my outliers (3way, ultralight, cilmbers) as comfortable pants but not as amazing a pants as Outlier or you claim them to be. (meaning, don't do this: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I've never considered stretch fabric as something that would last, and I like to think I paid majorly for the fit (and forget about how much I paid for them shog[1].gif ). Although I wonder how their pants would turn out after lots of age and abuse.
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