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post #556 of 1333
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Originally Posted by canstyleace View Post

Do you mean like a single thread pulling or a whole piece of fabric snagged permanently?

I've had a thread pull once on an og but managed to stretch it back in place, thankfully....

On another note, I recently received my nomads and can confirm a slimmer top block vs og's (seat & upper thighs), they're pretty much the same thing otherwise,, pine grey is nice, kinda mid grey with a slight olive tone and different enough from slate grey to keep, true grey is a much lighter grey, like concrete or cement, not something for my current wardrobe so that one is going back.
Construction looks pretty solid, sliky smooth ykk zipper, wore them for half day then other half wore one of my og's and they feel identical, same fabric, same stretch and same water/stain resistance, lets see how they hold up over time.

 

A few threads snagged out, and it was getting bigger so I snipped it with scissors. Hope it is not a wrong move. I can now see a 0.5 inch line on the fabric, and light can actually be seen when you hold it up against a light source. 

 

Kinda making me doubt the durability of these things, I actually plan to hike in it next month.

post #557 of 1333
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A few threads snagged out, and it was getting bigger so I snipped it with scissors. Hope it is not a wrong move. I can now see a 0.5 inch line on the fabric, and light can actually be seen when you hold it up against a light source. 

Kinda making me doubt the durability of these things, I actually plan to hike in it next month.

they recommend cutting them: https://twitter.com/clarkgriffiths/status/354342810599694337
post #558 of 1333

^Makes me not want to buy Outlier clothing ever again, I wouldnt be able to stand that if that happened to mine.

post #559 of 1333
^ I think it's a problem with most schoeller fabrics. This week i've been trying to find a couple yards of fabric for a small sewing project and in the process, I've read quite a bit about schoeller.

There's reports on hiking/climbing forums like http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/301414/Re_Schoeller_fabrics_and_snagg stating that wb-400, dryskin and dynamic (outlier's 4 season falls in this category) all snag. Some more complains can be found in this thread and in outlier's twitter feed, it seems pretty common on the shorts, climbers and OGs (4 season fabric)

I have two cats and in the last month they have put out threads on the two pairs of three way shorts that I own. Luckily, the snags on mine are tiny and cannot be seen but I've learned to be careful when the cats are around. The inside snags even worse than the outside layer but the inside snags don't show on the outside.

The dungarees fabric it's much more resistant, one of the cats used to climb up my leg when he was small and they still look like new. The ultralight fabric also seems more resistant to snagging, it gets tiny holes instead, but they seem to close and disappear after stretching the fabric.
post #560 of 1333
My climbers snagged a bunch at the thigh, where they were rubbing against a sharp steel edge on my front bike rack when carrying the bike. It took me awhile to figure out where the snags were coming from, but I figured it out and filed down the edge and no more snags. I mentioned the snags to a woman working the sample sale a year or two ago, and she asked, "like this?" and pointed to the front of her pants, which were all snagged up as well. Agree, I think it's just inherent to the stretchy fabric.

OTOH, I haven't had any snags on my dungarees yet, but I got them more recently.

It's strange they recommend clipping them. On any other fabric, you would want to use a needle to pull them to the wrong side of the fabric because clipping would lead to unraveling and holes. Either the Schoeller fabric is different and doesn't unravel, or it's just bad advice.
post #561 of 1333
Can you upload some pictures of your climbers? Was thinking about selling mine before this happens to me.
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nvm


Edited by Suyi - 7/31/13 at 7:55am
post #563 of 1333
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Can you upload some pictures of your climbers? Was thinking about selling mine before this happens to me.
. What size? I may be interested
post #564 of 1333
New linen/cotton "Astro" SS shirt up, looks nice but I wish it came in white or natural and had a slimmer fit.. Outlier seems to be stuck in a gray-blue shirt phase lately.

http://shop.outlier.cc/shop/retail/astro-pivot.html

Also, there's at least one Hypercity in stock again!
Edited by HansPhonetic - 7/31/13 at 7:16am
post #565 of 1333
That Hypercity was my return. Honestly, not impressed--and it is a very short pack, so if you have a long torso forget about it. I returned it and bought the Hyperlite Windrider for 100 bucks cheaper.
post #566 of 1333
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Originally Posted by einstine View Post

Can you upload some pictures of your climbers? Was thinking about selling mine before this happens to me.

The snags are basically invisible from > 1' away since I pulled them to the wrong side, you would have to know where they are and be looking for them. If you look super close you might be able to see a small hole or where the thread has pulled the fabric a bit.

If you use a sewing needle alone to try to pull them through, you will go insane. Which I almost did. The trick is to use a single-threaded needle to wrap a piece of thread around the snagged loop, hold the free end of thread, then push the needle/thread/snag combo through to the other side of the fabric. No knots, so you can just pull your thread free and start on the next one.

I wouldn't worry about it until it happens, unless you're sliding down mountains on your ass, or slogging through multifloral rose jaggers, or regularly freaking sharp metal objects. Or cats.
post #567 of 1333
I've only had one snag on my knee, used a razor to slice it down and it pretty much became invisible. Can't find it even if I tried.
post #568 of 1333
Used my 3 Way Longs to Hike (nearly swim) through 16 miles of The Narrows at Zion National Park this past weekend. Absolute perfect shorts for that. Dried incredibly fast, pretty much wicked water away, and strong enough to push through brush and shit that we encountered when we weren't chest deep in water.
post #569 of 1333
So the sewing on the belt loops of my Ultra Light pants are coming undone after a month of wear (and a couple washes). Notice I said loop's', as in all but two of the loops.
Came to ask about the snagging part, and I was sort of surprised at the timely discussion that had already happened. Is this how sturdy Outliers are?
post #570 of 1333
I wear outlier pants every day, and have for the last 2 years or so. I rotate between 4 pairs, 2 slim dungarees and 2 ogs and I haven't had any issues with snagging. I think what you are hearing here are only people who are having problems and since outlier sells out every run, I imagine the majority are doing fine.
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